pain is virtue

[Crownhead]

Im creating a religion based off rome and wanna keep things kinda of primitive but im wondering, Does pain is virtue, are they REQUIRED to feel pain, will they need to feel it, will they get a negitive mood buff if theyre in pain

[jerrypocalypse]

I don't believe so. They just get a mood bonus if/when they're in pain. Pairing it with the scarification precept works pretty well.

[Crownhead]

Originally posted by jerrypocalypse:

I don't believe so. They just get a mood bonus if/when they're in pain. Pairing it with the scarification precept works pretty well.

Golden, so whats the downside of pain is virtue?

[jerrypocalypse]

Originally posted by Samurai:

Originally posted by jerrypocalypse:

I don't believe so. They just get a mood bonus if/when they're in pain. Pairing it with the scarification precept works pretty well.

Golden, so whats the downside of pain is virtue?

I'm not sure of all of them, but a big one in my opinion is that they have a precept where they want to use slab beds, which have less comfort and rest effectiveness

[Dire]

Also they don't have a comfort need, meaning that juicy 10+ mood buff for sitting in a chair while researching / crafting / cooking etc goes down the toilet. Also a positive mood buff from getting up in the morning thanks to a comfortable bed is gone too.

[glass zebra]

Downsides:
- being in pain from scars (easier getting downed from combat, slightly reduced consciness)
- no positive comfort bonus
- hard to heal stuff like brain scars, because stuff like luciferium rolls for scar healing and will likely heal one of your scarification ritual scars
- heavy scarification can have body part malus if rolled twice on the same body part. people of other ideologies might find these disfigured

Upsides:
- pain gives mood bonus instead of malus (great for combat)
- no negative comfort malus and slab beds grant minor mood bonus (not as big as the biggest comfort bonus)
- no mood malus for freezing, sweating, sleeping the cold/sleeping in the heat, eating without table, sleeping outside
- pain/scars give increased psy reg
- scarification rituals grants easy social xp and micro mood boosts and complete scarification grants opinion bonus

These are great for minimal living and for doing outside missions / raiding and psy casters.