Change references of "Asperger's" to "Autism/Autistic" or "ASD"

[Chalk]

As the title said, references to Asperger's Syndrome should be changed to Autism, Autistic, or simply ASD. The Asperger's Syndrome diagnosis has been folded into ASD and is no longer recognised by the WHO's ICD-11 or the APA's DSM-5.

I understand most (if not all) references to Asperger's Syndrome was community-contributed and likely a reflection of the contributor's author, but its inclusion in the game could be harmful and misleading

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The WHO and APA are promoting discrimination against sufferers of the milder autism spectrum disorders by eliminating the distinctions between diagnoses. That is what is harmful and misleading, not people continuing to use the older terminology.

[Crystal Sharrd]

As someone who was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome, I don't think it's harmful or misleading. It's just a form of autism.

[ikegami178]

If they do that, at the very least also specify its mild autism

As it is, "ASD" is a term like "cancer": Its extremely generic among doctors meaning almost nothing by itself, and carry a heavy pejorative baggage among the general population

The pejorative weight alone makes autism a label one should never put on anything lightly, but even outside common interpretation from the masses, the term mean very little. Asperger might be obsolete, but gives a much clearer idea of what you are dealing with

Autism is a gargantuan spectre that includes not only the obvious chases, but also very mild ones on people capable of a perfectly functional life that the average joe would never suspect the person is autistic
That is because there is only a handfull of core signs and a massive number of signs that may be present or not, not only that, the severity of even the core signs varies greatly for individual to individual and even between themselves in the same individual

Proposed changes would be just for the sake of literal correctness, remove a term that is academicaly obsolete, but still widely used and understood for a term that is academically extremely vague and popularly pejorative

[A Bat From Wuhan]

The game has been out for 11-years, and nobody has ever had a serious complaint.

It's fine.

[Khan Boyzitbig of Mercia]

The WHO is no longer working in the interests of world health, only their ideology which is detrimental to the world.

[Chibi Life]

"Hay guise, Dr. Who has told us to stop using a word. Please edit your 11 year old game to reflect the real world now, kk thanks ^^"

[[MadTs] Phyrys]

I dont have anything with the fact we designate mild autism without crippling problems as Aspergers. That being said, I would absolutely like that, while still using this term, people would have a mandatory reminder that Asperger worked for the third Reich and sent over seven hundred Aspergers children to their euthanasia, in what would be a very true Rimworld fashion.

All that because he couldn't be less bothered with children lives, being far more interested by the global work efficiency of the average family... which isn't really pushed up by being an "unbearable burden for their mothers".

Hate the player, not the game.

[P O P]

Uhh is this locked behind biotech or something? I have never seen this before.

Also, WHO GIVES A ♥♥♥♥?

[MadArtillery]

Originally posted by P O P:

Uhh is this locked behind biotech or something? I have never seen this before.

Also, WHO GIVES A ♥♥♥♥?

Nah nothing biotech some pawn backstory stuff you can hover over on pawns probably. I haven't seen it myself and honestly don't find this particularly important a discussion either.

[Chalk]

I'm obviously not going to engage with or entertain the snowflake right wingers winging about politics and "woke" agendas, the only people bringing politics into this is them. Thinking that correcting an outdated term to use modern nomenclature is somehow political is either trolling, bad faith, or just levels of stupidity I can't even comprehend. Go complain on the Veilguard board or something lol.

As for the people who think Asperger's is a "mild" form of ASD - no, it's not. Asperger's as a diagnosis or a syndrome is no longer considered to be a separate mental condition to ASD - that is to say, Asperger's doesn't "exist" in the sense that it's not a separate diagnosis. Equating it as a specific "type" of ASD or a sub-diagnosis or saying it is to ASD what lung cancer is to cancer is false.

To clarify: Asperger's, as a syndrome, is not considered to be its own thing anymore. All those diagnosed with Asperger's now, instead, be considered to have ASD. If you "have" Asperger's Syndrome, you should consider a visit to your mental health professional to get your diagnosis updated.

ASD stands for Autism Spectrum Disorder, with the operative word here being SPECTRUM. As a spectrum, it ranges from mild to severe, from verbal to non-verbal, from low functioning to high functioning, etc. This includes the diagnosis formerly called Asperger's Syndrome.

I feel the need to repeat myself so that people don't misunderstand, but Asperger's is NOT a "type" of autism, it is NOT a modern diagnosis, and it is NOT "mild autism" or "autistic psychopathy." If someone has mild autism, then that is their diagnosis: Mild autism. There is no separate diagnosis.

[Chalk]

Originally posted by P O P:

Uhh is this locked behind biotech or something? I have never seen this before.

Also, WHO GIVES A ♥♥♥♥?

It might not matter to you, but to some with autism it might. Like me, for example. If you don't care, why comment in the first place?

[Chalk]

Originally posted by Crystal Sharrd:

As someone who was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome, I don't think it's harmful or misleading. It's just a form of autism.

Please visit your mental health professional to get your diagnosis updated. As I mentioned above, Asperger's Syndrome is no longer considered a separate diagnosis and those previously diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome would now be considered to have ASD instead. As mentioned, Asperger's is not a "type" of autism or a "mild form" of autism, it is an outdated term that is no longer used in modern psychology.

[Chalk]

Originally posted by nbrown0:

The WHO and APA are promoting discrimination against sufferers of the milder autism spectrum disorders by eliminating the distinctions between diagnoses. That is what is harmful and misleading, not people continuing to use the older terminology.

As a person with autism and I can confidently say that the only thing that offends and makes people with autism feel discriminated against is people trying to separate "mild" from "severe" autism. People with ASD are people with ASD, whether it's mild or severe. The only reason people without autism would want to differentiate the "severity" is so that they can make it more palpable for themselves, or so that it's more socially acceptable, or so that they can say "well at least you don't have this other type of autism" as though it somehow makes the person more or less valid.

[Dr. Uncredible]

Originally posted by Chalk:

Originally posted by nbrown0:

The WHO and APA are promoting discrimination against sufferers of the milder autism spectrum disorders by eliminating the distinctions between diagnoses. That is what is harmful and misleading, not people continuing to use the older terminology.

As a person with autism and I can confidently say that the only thing that offends and makes people with autism feel discriminated against is people trying to separate "mild" from "severe" autism. People with ASD are people with ASD, whether it's mild or severe. The only reason people without autism would want to differentiate the "severity" is so that they can make it more palpable for themselves, or so that it's more socially acceptable, or so that they can say "well at least you don't have this other type of autism" as though it somehow makes the person more or less valid.

Is that so?
After all Autism can range from utterly crippling to mildly inconveniencing for the autist in question.
Is there really no value in distinguishing between grades of severity?

[Animal 7]

Some of the comments here are very disappointing.