Research books still need the required techprint/ signal chip, right?

[Falmingkitter]

There's nothing about it on google/ the wiki so I'll check here, even though I think I know the answer

[HunterSilver]

To my understanding, there are no research books for mechtech, making it impossible to test that without someone adding them in via mods. I think it might be the same with any of the techprint research.

If they are obtainable, it'll likely work like anomaly research you haven't discovered yet: you can't gain research on it by reading the book until the research is unlocked.

[MadArtillery]

Originally posted by HunterSilver:

To my understanding, there are no research books for mechtech, making it impossible to test that without someone adding them in via mods. I think it might be the same with any of the techprint research.

If they are obtainable, it'll likely work like anomaly research you haven't discovered yet: you can't gain research on it by reading the book until the research is unlocked.

I've gotten Wastepack Atomizer books. I have not actually ever checked if I got research from it.

[Jaggid Edje]

I don't know about techprint requirements, but I know you can't unlock tech through reading a book if you don't have any pre-requisite technologies already unlocked.

That would lead me to believe that you would need the techprint as well, because the game code probably just checks for any and all pre-requisites. It seems unlikely they would require the one and not the other.

[Thunderer]

Originally posted by MadArtillery:

I've gotten Wastepack Atomizer books. I have not actually ever checked if I got research from it.

I was lucky enough to get the book as well. Here is what I found out.

The pawns can read it, progress is made on the research. Not sure yet if the full tech can be unlocked.

[The Blind One]

Originally posted by Thunderer:

The pawns can read it, but no progress is made in the research. I hope this will start working if I manage to get the Nano structuring chip.

They absolutely do get research points in the tech. My guys have filled it up to 1/3rd so far.

Wastepack atomizer isn't a mechanitor tech strictly speaking according to the def, it's just a normal tech that requires the nano structuring chip to be analyzed and is dependent on a previous mechtech to be researched which is dependent on a mechanitor.

That's why you can get books on this tech but not the other mechtechs. It's not a mechanitor-only technology.

The real question is, what will happen when the bar fills up? Will the tech unlock without having a nanostructuring chip analyzed? Not that it would really matter because you couldn't build an atomizer anyway without a nano chip 🤣

My gut tells me it just unlocks,

[Thunderer]

It does indeed unlock with just the book, but you still need the nano structuring chip to build one.

Edit: Not sure if this is a bug or something else weird. It did also marks the other nano structuring chip research Ultra mechtech as available. I did need to research High Mechtech before I could start the Ultra mechtech research, but I am now researching it without even ever seeing the nano structuring chip.

[The Blind One]

Originally posted by Thunderer:

It does indeed unlock with just the book, but you still need the nano structuring chip to build one.

Edit: Not sure if this is a bug or something else weird. It did also marks the other nano structuring chip research Ultra mechtech as available. I did need to research High Mechtech before I could start the Ultra mechtech research, but I am now researching it without even ever seeing the nano structuring chip.

Huh that is interesting.