hyperweave & synthread

[Laughing_Dragon]

are they of any use? it can only be bought or gained from quests and devilstrand outperforms it in basically everything

[Steelfleece]

Synthread's just cheap crap. It's what your colonists usually start out wearing. I mean, technically it's sort of the third best vanilla fabric, but you can farm devilstrand so there's little reason to unless you want it for looks.

Hyperweave's actually a little better than devilstrand at most things aside from heat resistance. Even has better insulation. Still, it's rare enough and the differences small enough that you're just as well off mass producing devilstrand clothes and keeping the high quality ones while selling the rest.

[Laughing_Dragon]

so synthread is basically just the glitterworld version of cloth?

[Xeno42]

Originally posted by Laughing_Dragon:

so synthread is basically just the glitterworld version of cloth?

yeah

hyper weav has a 2.0 and .54 sharp and blunt multiplier making is very durable stuff. i believe a hyperweave duster is stronger and lighter than a flak jacket of the same quality. deveilstand has a 1.4 and .36 so not quite as good but you can grow it albeit slowly.

[Hoki]

the value of synthread in vanilla as well as modded by itself is pretty much nonexistent.

in modded though its usually aslo used as a component for mods that allow production of hyperweave (rimefeller i believe uses it in combination with plasteel; been ages since i last used that mod).

hyperweave is pretty much the best non-leather fabric only beaten by devilstrand in regards to availability.

[Astasia]

Synthread is actually fairly common and relevant, but as already finished clothing not as a stuff material. Pretty much every "spacer" and most ancients spawn with synthread clothes, and it's value is low enough that you can often find good synthread on raiders. It's not amazing, but on the list of textiles it's number 9 on sharp and number 4 on blunt. It's more of an early game thing, when you see a downed pawn and they have some synthread it's often worth stripping them for it, and you value your starting synthread outfit on the crashlanded start.

Hyperweave is the best textile in the game by a lot, people above had said non-leather but overall it's also much better than thrumbofur, with like double the blunt and heat res and significantly more health, with only very slightly less sharp (2.08 vs 2.0). The only thing thrumbofur is really better at is beauty and availability. Sometimes though you can get a quest that's like here's 800-1000 hyperweave.

[Raymond]

just use devilstrand for everything. There is next to no reason to use hyperweave and synthread at all.

[Steelfleece]

Originally posted by YariMurai:

just use devilstrand for everything. There is next to no reason to use hyperweave and synthread at all.

I'd just save hyperweave for inspired crafters. Legendary hyperweave duster is legendary.

[brian_va]

its obviously RNG, but i've found hyperweave fairly often on orbital traders. its expensive, but once you get a good economy rolling its not really an issue. saving it for inspirations is probably best, but i just set it to make dusters with the best crafter as long as they are pushing skill level 20 or close enough.

[Astasia]

EPOE adds an orbital trader type that always has hyperweave, a lot of people use that mod and don't realize it's an EPOE thing since it's a "textiles" trader which doesn't seem related to what the mod does. Finding hyperweave for sale on traders is otherwise exceptionally rare in my experience.

[Dr.Acula]

Hyperweave is the most robust material followed by devilstrand.

EPOE (Expanded Prosthetics and Organ Engineering) as a mod also provides the ability to create bionic organs like heart, kidney and liver which require hyperweave as material.

There are also mods that allow you to create Hyperweave through different means. Rimefeller provides a machine to create hyperweave through oil drilling and the use of chemfuel.

VGP Garden Fabrics allows to create Syntweave and Hyperweave through different recipes some of which may require materials from monsters like spiders.

Alpha Mods also provides large spider monsters that you could tame and use to harvest hyperweave from (kind of like spidersilk production).

Flak jackets and flak pants made with hyperweave are also pretty robust and if on the same quality level as a duster will provide slightly more protection from injuries. It would basically be the best material to protect your pawns before using power armor.

[Kittenpox]

As others have mentioned, Hyperweave is a direct upgrade from Devilstrand, but Devilstrand is easier to acquire.

So you could set up something, like having 3 tailoring recipes for hot-weather clothing with "make Capes, do Until 1, hitpoints 52%->100%, Only Allowed Ingredients [✓], Crafter skill 10+, at Good quality or better" (for example) :
- The first work bill is made using only Hyperweave.
- The second is made using Hyperweave or Camelhide or PantheraFur or Devilstrand
- The third is the aforementioned materials, with the addition of Synthread, Thrumbofur, and Bearskin.

That way, if only Synthread is available they'll make that one - but as Devilstrand becomes available they can make any replacement capes out of the better materials, and if you get enough Hyperweave that is prioritised at the top of the list as the thing to make. But once there's Hyperweave (or Devilstrand) capes in storage your people won't try to spend a ton of Bearskin making additional spare capes for hot-weather resistance.

(To clarify, I'm not saying this is the best way to manage things - simply that it's one way of using the stuff.)

Originally posted by Steelfleece:

I'd just save hyperweave for inspired crafters. Legendary hyperweave duster is legendary.

That is particularly good advice. Thankyou!