Bedroom sizing

[ThreeRippersInATrenchcoat]

Something im curious about, what sizes of bedrooms do you guys give your pawns? ive recently upgraded to 4x4s from 3x4s or 3x3s, and recently saw someone say that giving your colonists 5x5 or 6x6 rooms is standard practice. i think im still going to stick to 4x4s, since i prefer spending that space on larger production or nicer dining rooms that all pawns will use rather than the individuals room.

[Narrowmind]

5x5.

[Toastie Buns]

Mine are 7x7
Gives it enough room that when art is placed into it, it becomes unbelievably impressive.
https://i.imgur.com/1vSqcY7.png
This example is with silver art, all excellent quality - 182
https://i.imgur.com/XeLMqPv.png
This example is marble art, all excellent, needs 2 jade masterworks to push over the limit - 173
https://i.imgur.com/KxNrs6J.png
This example is all marble art, only extremely impressive - 161

That said, barracks completely destroy individual bedrooms since they're easily to maintain and double up as bedrooms, hospitals, dining areas and rec rooms
https://i.imgur.com/dMajc4z.png
Example is wondorously impressive - 250

[Ghevd]

Francis John broke it down pretty well.

Personally for space saving I find combining a barracks with the recroom and dining room the best space saver.

https://youtu.be/ybHLtGwWEF8?si=aKv8NK2e9AzYydJq

[Astasia]

A 5x5 bedroom with a normal wood double bed, normal carpet, and a single excellent slate sculpture is somewhat impressive and provides +4 mood. Compared to a wondrously impressive barrack which is +4 mood. That's why I mentioned 5x5 in the other thread, that's a good starting point. Larger bedrooms like a 7x7 with a single excellent sculpture is very impressive and provides +5 mood, beating out the best possible barrack. It's very low effort to make a nice bedroom.

4x4 is too small and the cramped space kills the impressiveness. You'd need a legendary sculpture or two excellent sculptures in there to match the 5x5 room mentioned above.

Usually I use something between like 35-60 tiles per bedroom, depending on my overall base layout. Sometimes I merge bedrooms with a poly ideology, just knock out a wall between two bedrooms and double the size of the room. An 8x8 is probably too large, though I imagine I've done it a few times. Each factor in room impressiveness has diminishing returns, space above 50 tiles isn't really that beneficial.

[Steelfleece]

My usual is 5x5. Then again, I tend to start with a simplified grid made of 5x5 rooms (7x7 counting walls) and join some of them into larger rooms or carve smaller as needed. Sometimes I go with 3x5s at the start, because three of those can be re-cut into a pair of 5x5s as the colony expands.

[ThreeRippersInATrenchcoat]

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198259124871/screenshot/2119566078891303937/
here are the bedrooms i use, i give married couples larger rooms as it just feels right, but 4x4 is the standard. i guess ive just gotten used to doing smaller rooms since i dont like using too too many resources or much time on each one.

[Mati_Lublin]

5x5 , 5x6 or 6x6, sometimes 4x3 in tunneler colonies.

[Makeithappen]

I usually put pawns in a 1x2 with just a bed. they get the awful bedroom -4 mood. At least when I'm starting out or need to give a new member a temporary spare room. Which I think is much better early on then trying to make a barracks. Plus they wont suffer from the disturb sleep if someone walks close by.

I upgrade them to a 4x4 to get decent. Eventually give them flooring and a good or better sculpture that will push the room to slightly impressive.

For me this just works out perfectly because as their expectations fall away the longer you play, I slowly build up their mood buffs with better rooms. Currently in year 4 of a new playthrough and its working out just fine. Obviously other things factor into their mood buffs debuffs. Ive had very few mental breaks.

I play on losing is fun.

[ACS36]

Barracks are all around best. Reduce travel time and overall size of the colony, reduce colony wealth, and are less work to get up and running.

Only build bed rooms for royalty or really bad tempered colonists.

[Trinoya]

Bed size for me depends mostly on map restrictions, but a 5x5 is standard at the start unless I can fit in a 5x7. These are great because they are easy to upgrade to even bigger rooms unless I'm in a mountain (in which case that's as big as I will get with them to help control infestations).

3x3 is like forcing someone to eat without a table, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

[Limdood]

I think you need 5x6 or bigger to satisfy the requirements of Count (possibly Baron?) and above titles, so there is incentive to go to 30 tile bedrooms for that.

Otherwise I make bedrooms of several sizes. I use barracks (usually 11x5) for hospitals, prisons, slave quarters, and guest rooms (hospitality mod). I occasionally use barracks for regular colonists (with expanded ideology), but the drawbacks are usually too big to keep it for long....barracks blocks you from getting Acolyte or Knight (forgot which one requires a bedroom), and the disturbed sleep plus the reduced mood bonus, AND more foot traffic = dirtier floor means that I often swap to bedrooms quickly.

I rarely go below 5x5. My usual is 5x5 or 6x6 (I make modular bases with everything fitting inside of 11x11 or 13x13 frames (those are the interior dimensions....the walls are 13 or 15 across on the outside...the 13x13 room needs a pillar in the middle)....dividing those up into 2 11x5 (or 13x6) rooms, or into 4 5x5 (or 6x6) rooms, or keeping them full size for things like throne room, dining/rec room, etc.

I've tried other "separated buildings" layouts (anything that isn't all one connected building), but I always go back to my 11x11 or 13x13 squares because of how nicely they contain everything. Fit in as many squares as needed (including farming squares) and then wall off the whole thing.

[Kittenpox]

Because I have the Royalty expansion, I tend to make bedrooms 5x6 (30 tiles). That way it serves as a suitable bedroom for people with fancy titles, can be repurposed to a throne room for Acolyte/Knight/Dame-rank pawns, and is enough space to use as a production room (because there's space for shelves etc.) if I want to separate an antisocial pawn from the common workshop areas.

I could try to optimise this for room impressiveness, but I tend to use other things to manage mood instead.

[brian_va]

Publicado originalmente por ACS36:

Barracks are all around best. Reduce travel time and overall size of the colony, reduce colony wealth, and are less work to get up and running.

agreed, the -3 for disturbed sleep is insignificant. perhaps even less than insignificant.

[Steelfleece]

It's funny. Ever since the changes to shelves, my colonies' storerooms have shrunk enough to allow for an increase in bedrooms. Eventually they take up more indoors space than anything else does... But the colonies still take up less space than older colonies. Doesn't really change travel time much either since bedrooms can easily line the edges of the colony or be pushed all to one end as they only need to be traveled to and from once per sleep cycle. It's more an issue if you do the biphasic thing but I've never messed with that for long. Colony wealth is still a thing, buuuut not only is the difference in wealth insignificant unless you go with huge gold sculptures in every bedroom, if you build from stone blocks and tiles or maybe carpet you can still have fairly nice bedrooms on the cheap.

[Cultist]

4x5. It's big enough that it doesn't make them feel cramped if they spend time in there (praying for instance). Royalty gets bigger and fancier bedrooms and I generally make bigger rooms for couples as well, since they're saving me a room.