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fatburner

Feb 28, 2023 @ 12:50am

Why arent flat tiles flat?

I picked a flat tile but it was full of hills and bodies of water. quite annoying tbh

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Originally posted by Astasia:

True flat maps don't work for normal gameplay, you need a fairly significant amount of steel and components which spawn in "hills" to get things rolling and play comfortably on a higher difficulty, stone is also vital to base building. The vast majority of land tiles on a world are flat, this is more or less the default map type to play in so it has the default resources needed. If you want extra resources you can play on a more hilly map. Fewer resources isn't really viable most of the time but that option is there with Sea Ice, it's a fairly boring gameplay loop of basically waiting for resources and it doesn't really work at high difficulties. Keep in mind the game was designed and balanced around caravans not being a thing, and players sticking to only their starting map. It's also balanced around players picking a random start location and being able to make it work on losing is fun. If you want to make specialized challenges for yourself that's what the dev tools and mods are for.

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whatamidoing has RimWorld

Feb 28, 2023 @ 1:41am

It mixes things up and allows for starting resources to spawn. Hills can be mined and water pumped later.

SievertChaser has RimWorld

Feb 28, 2023 @ 2:53am

Originally posted by SOMR:
I picked a flat tile but it was full of hills and bodies of water. quite annoying tbh

Rimworld is in many ways a torture tool for the figurative OCD sufferers. If there were no obstacles to perfect rectangle-buidling, it'd be pretty boring.

fatburner

Feb 28, 2023 @ 3:56am

Originally posted by whatamidoing:
It mixes things up and allows for starting resources to spawn. Hills can be mined and water pumped later.

It literally does not mix things up. Large hills? not flat, Small hills? not flat. Flat tile? NOT FLAT THE GENERATION IS THE SAME ONLT SLIGHT DIFFERENCE IN AMOUNT OF STONE

An actual map with no ores or minable stone that is actually flat would be mixing things up.

Last edited by fatburner; Feb 28, 2023 @ 3:57am

whatamidoing has RimWorld

Feb 28, 2023 @ 4:00am

A perfectly flat map would have no variation at all, though. Right now different stony areas and water make flat maps still feel different from each other and can make you build different to better suit the terrain.
It sounds like you're looking for sea ice.

fatburner

Feb 28, 2023 @ 4:01am

Flat Jungle, Flat Desert, Flat Tundra, Flat Forest you name it

They are flat! It makes sense. Terrain wont really get in your way except perhaps in Flat Swamp which may have significant amount mud and what not. But on the flipside there is nothing to mine and you need to procure certain resources via other means, of which there are several. Lets list them? How can you get for example steel if there are no ores?

Deep drill, steel slag smelting, weapons/apparel smelting, trading, mineral scanner, structures from quests. Pretty good. Flat maps are a good idea

Last edited by fatburner; Feb 28, 2023 @ 4:03am

whatamidoing has RimWorld

Feb 28, 2023 @ 4:03am

Could be nice as a supplement to the existing flat generation, certainly not a replacement.

fatburner

Feb 28, 2023 @ 4:05am

You have small hills and you have large hills and you have mountanous if you desire minable ores and so on. the flat map should be as flat as sea ice so there is greater variation for players in different biomes imo. not every map should come with free ores, not the flat ones,

Last edited by fatburner; Feb 28, 2023 @ 4:05am

fatburner

Feb 28, 2023 @ 4:09am

heres what a flat map looks like i made it with the dev tool and a mod called map edit and its alot of fun so far. i started as tribal so there was enough steel from deconstructing to get the first research bench. https://imgur.com/a/DKsUnw2

fatburner

Feb 28, 2023 @ 4:09am

"Doesent look like much, but it has no ores and no water. This gives the player more freedom to build but the player must figure out alternative sources for steel and what not. I believe this type of map ties the game better together since the world map becomes more important, doing quests, even if the quest reward isnt good, you will still probably do it just to scavenge some steel. Stuff like that."

From the description of the screenshot linked

Last edited by fatburner; Feb 28, 2023 @ 4:10am

SievertChaser has RimWorld

Feb 28, 2023 @ 4:10am

Good for you.

Dull as all ♥♥♥♥.

Last edited by SievertChaser; Feb 28, 2023 @ 4:10am

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Caz

Feb 28, 2023 @ 4:10am

This could help you create a flat map with fewer or no mountains and water.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2889137767&searchtext=configurable+maps

I would like to see a Plains biome where mountains and water can generate between 0 and the current Flat map's settings. I doubt I would ever use it myself, but it would be nice for quest locations.

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whatamidoing has RimWorld

Feb 28, 2023 @ 4:10am

Yup, looks flat and bland. It's not exactly a hard thing to imagine. Again, I'd be fine with it as an additional degree of hilliness flatter than flat, but not as a replacement.

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fatburner

Feb 28, 2023 @ 4:13am

Originally posted by Caz:
This could help you create a flat map with fewer or no mountains and water.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2889137767&searchtext=configurable+maps

I would like to see a Plains biome where mountains and water can generate between 0 and the current Flat map's settings. I doubt I would ever use it myself, but it would be nice for quest locations.

"You can adjust the maps' "mountain level," perhaps so that flat maps have almost no rock outcroppings, or perhaps so that mountain maps have little open space."

Sounds great! will check it out

Last edited by fatburner; Feb 28, 2023 @ 4:14am

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fatburner

Feb 28, 2023 @ 4:17am

Right now the Flat preset is actually "small hills" so how about changing most of the "Flat" generation to small hills and changing the world map texture a bit so it looks good still. But then change the Flat setting so it becomes less common but is actually 99% flat

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