Unbelievable sugery failure

[Fizzgig]

One of my colonists ended up with a shattered jaw, so I organised for him to have a denture fitted. A few minutes later I get a message that my doctor has failed to install the denture, I check the guys health tab, and suddenly he's missing a stomach. How the hell do you accidentally remove a stomach while fitting a denture? And is it possible to survive without a stomach!?

[Eichhorst]

i knew the feeling to well but in my case the stupid docter accidentally amputated the patient's leg

[Mytheos]

@OP

Yes you can survive I believe, if you check I think the missing stomach reduces their eating efficiency?

If I remember it reduces it to 10%?

If thats the case along with a broken jaw/dentures its going to take a week for that person to get through a meal.


I will agree though, the surgery failures need altered...would rather see a bad bleed or multiple bad bleeds in the area of the surgery instead.

That way you have to heal them first before another surgery and they risk infection for the multiple cuts...possibly even end up with a surgical scar or something.

Buy yeah failed lung operation should be multiple cuts on the torso... not a missing foot.

Failed bionic leg replacement should be a missing foot/leg/cuts to the leg.

Possibly even add in in the patient going into cardiac arrest and if your doctor cant save them, they die....which would be a better way for the game to say...dont try this half-♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Eichhorst]

Originally posted by Mytheos:

@OP

Yes you can survive I believe, if you check I think the missing stomach reduces their eating efficiency?

If I remember it reduces it to 10%?

If thats the case along with a broken jaw/dentures its going to take a week for that person to get through a meal.

so his colonist is ♥♥♥♥♥♥?

[Mytheos]

Originally posted by Eichhorst:

Originally posted by Mytheos:

@OP

Yes you can survive I believe, if you check I think the missing stomach reduces their eating efficiency?

If I remember it reduces it to 10%?

If thats the case along with a broken jaw/dentures its going to take a week for that person to get through a meal.

so his colonist is ♥♥♥♥♥♥?

If thats what the stomach missing does, yeah basically screwed...just the broken jaw alone is enough to make the person waste so much time eating they become a pain unless they are just a shooter that had another small odd job like cleaning, hauling etc.

But if its your cook, constructor, researcher, item crafter...they are going to be more hassle than they are worth.

[Eichhorst]

Originally posted by Mytheos:

Originally posted by Eichhorst:

so his colonist is ♥♥♥♥♥♥?

If thats what the stomach missing does, yeah basically screwed...just the broken jaw alone is enough to make the person waste so much time eating they become a pain unless they are just a shooter that had another small odd job like cleaning, hauling etc.

But if its your cook, constructor, researcher, item crafter...they are going to be more hassle than they are worth.

what a shame

[θάνατος]

dont have low level medicine skill guys do any operations at all. it is very funny imo when this happens though.

[Fizzgig]

I feel really bad for the guy, he's had a hard time. I tried to install the denture twice, first time failed, he ended up with loads of surgical cuts, which he recovered from, then the second time he lost his stomach. He was never really any good at anything, and got depressed whenever the weather was hot or cold.

His eating efficiency is at 10% so I guess he's going to starve to death.

My doctor had a skill level of 12, so I really didn't expect any issues. He's done a few surgeries before without issues.

[Fabio]

Makes sense, the guy that performed the surgery thought he was dealing with Xing Tian (Chinese God that is often illustrated having a mouth in his belly).

[PolecatEZ]

Not sure if that's entirely accurate for a stomach removal. They do "Gastric bypass" all the time in real life for various reasons...you just have to eat fewer meals more often. The only side effect is it should make a fat avatar into a skinny one.

[corisai]

First, operation chances allow even 20 doctor to fail. Just remember - "loosing is fun" and your colonist are making some self-made home from remains from crash, so they don't have access to adequate medical equipement.

Then about operation chances. Here is stuff affecting it:
- Skill of doctor
- Medicine used (never do any operation without normal medicine, it have 100% overall multiplier, while herbal only 60%. Glitterworld have 160%)
- Cleaniness of room (only operate in room with sterile floor and cleaned from blood and chunks)
- Lighting of room (no need more then 60% light, but penalty without it is huge)
- Vital monitor boost chances a bit.

Don't remember clearly, but some operations have a hardcoded minimal chance to kill patient. May be it's bionic implants and 10%, don't sure now.

[Fizzgig]

My issue isn't that the doctor failed twice in a row, but that a failure to install a denture meant a stomach being removed. It doesn't make sense, hell, if he ended up cutting off his head, it would have made more sense.

[corisai]

Think creative - may be your doctor completely destroy jaws of your patient, making him unable to feed anything but liquid food. So your see it as 10% feed effectiveness.

It's sandbox game - imagination is your best friend ^_^

[Neme]

Originally posted by Fizzgig:

One of my colonists ended up with a shattered jaw, so I organised for him to have a denture fitted. A few minutes later I get a message that my doctor has failed to install the denture, I check the guys health tab, and suddenly he's missing a stomach. How the hell do you accidentally remove a stomach while fitting a denture? And is it possible to survive without a stomach!?

Was the name of the surgeon that did the operation Nick Riviera ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgqKv9rkAE0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQMJolaxmR8

[Fizzgig]

Originally posted by corisai:

Think creative - may be your doctor completely destroy jaws of your patient, making him unable to feed anything but liquid food. So your see it as 10% feed effectiveness.

It's sandbox game - imagination is your best friend ^_^

Sure, but that doesn't explain why he has a missing stomach.

[Ficelle]

Dont search for a logical explanation.

It is just the price you have to pay for critical failure.

It could be 'the patient died from anesthesia or something' and it would be worse.

Plus, it somewhat happens IRL too, check those funny stories about wrong operations (amputations, removing of an organ ,castrations,...)