Are Cave-Ins still a thing?

[MrDave]

I ask because I've got a MASSIVE room in a mountain I've been making to TRY and cause a cave-in (so I can see what happens) and it just doesn't seem to want to collapse...

[Pleccy]

If you were to dig out far enough it would eventually collapse and crush your colonists, but it sounds like the mountains so big it would take a lot of digging to do.

[MrDave]

Ok, a few questions then:

1. What happens when there's a "collapse" does it open to sky or just fill the area in?
2. How often do I need "support" or are there "Max room sizes"?

This is like my 6th day playing, and my first attempt at a mountain base.


Oh also, do I need space between Hydroponics bays still (I read somewhere you did). I tested it in one of my colonies, but it didn't seem to care about space.

[Nikke]

Originally posted by ML Apophis:

Ok, a few questions then:

1. What happens when there's a "collapse" does it open to sky or just fill the area in?
2. How often do I need "support" or are there "Max room sizes"?

It creates "collapsed rock" tiles that work as supports. The room size can be pretty large, I haven't had any issue making huge rooms. But make sure there's at least one support pillar (1 tile wall) in middle the room just in case.

[Pleccy]

OK:

1. It will damage all colonists and items that were under there (much like a roof fall-in) but will also create "fallen rock" which whenmined can be very dangerous to the person mining.

2. Every 6 blocks when building, mining I think it depends on the size of the mountain, use your judgment.

I don't think colonists can climb over hydroponics so just make sure there is a space by the 5 growing bits.

Also beware of infestations whilst in a mountain.

EDIT: Sorry it's when it's 6 blocks away from a wall that it collapses when building.

[MrDave]

Infestations?

[Borkins]

Very bad bugs will tunnel up through the floors and murder everyone

[MrDave]

Also, can I "build" a wall to function as a support column?

[Pleccy]

Infestations are bug hives that pop out the ground in mountains and create giant insects which are immediately aggressive. They are melee and once all insects are killed the hive will die out. If left too long then they will dig out the mountain and create insect jelly (edible by colonists) whilst the hive multiples.

[Pleccy]

Yes you can build a wall as a support column.

[TinySnek]

Originally posted by ML Apophis:

I ask because I've got a MASSIVE room in a mountain I've been making to TRY and cause a cave-in (so I can see what happens) and it just doesn't seem to want to collapse...

Oooooh yeah. I had two of my colonists die due to cave ins when I was mining. One of them was trying to dig the other one out of the rubble when it caved again.

[ShadowTani]

A support every 6 tiles is a bit overkill honestly, every 10 tiles to be safe is more appropriate. You can have a 12x12 room without supports in the middle I believe, most of my storage rooms are 13x11 and don't need supports (and that is with regular constructed roofs).

[BlackSmokeDMax]

You can have a room 12 x however long you want without support, and it will not cave in. The key is roof tiles are only supported safely 6 tiles away from support.

[Mytheos]

Originally posted by ShadowTani:

A support every 6 tiles is a bit overkill honestly, every 10 tiles to be safe is more appropriate. You can have a 12x12 room without supports in the middle I believe, most of my storage rooms are 13x11 and don't need supports (and that is with regular constructed roofs).

If you make a max room size, you need every wall really, meaning if you start deconstucting or enemies destroy sections, you start having problems quick.

[Mush]

Originally posted by BlackSmokeDMax:

. The key is roof tiles are only supported safely 6 tiles away from support.

i have always used 8 tiles between supports and never had anything collapse, not even once.

[BlackSmokeDMax]

Originally posted by Tasty Mushroom:

Originally posted by BlackSmokeDMax:

. The key is roof tiles are only supported safely 6 tiles away from support.

i have always used 8 tiles between supports and never had anything collapse, not even once.

That means they are only 4 tiles from the nearest support at the most, so well within the 6 I stated.