are tox weapons/bombs good ?

[Ombrero]

Hi

i would like to know if tox shell/bomb/grenade are a good weapons or no ?
atm i try to use them but it seems to take a lot of times to buildup toxicity + the tox smoge dissipes quite fast

am i using them wrong ?

[di eshor ribly]

They have a very niche use. They're meant more for non-lethal take downs (in your hands) and a threat against you defensively. Unless toxicity hits 100% it won't kill (usually. cancers and what not suck). Usually you'll see them chucked at your defenses to run your defenders off before they pass out. They're highly effective in toxic fallout weather events... but you could just let the weather do the work for you. Gas lingers around longer inside too.

Toxic resistance/immunity are fairly common across the xenogenes so I personally don't see much use in them for my colony... but...

Having a tox-immune pawn (waster or something) with go juice/Jogger/bionic legs/luciferium/vampire speed bonuses with a tox pack and/or grenades can quite literally run circles around a pawn you want to capture until they pass out from the smoke. Assuming the other pawn isn't tox-immune. Or wearing a gas mask.

[Kazouie]

some tox IED for invaders to trigger when they come into my killbox or in the tunnel leading up to it seems to have a nice effect compared to the cost.
It doesn't down them outright but if they just shoot a little worse and down a little easier etc that's already valuable

[Morvana]

Originally posted by Ombrero:

Hi

i would like to know if tox shell/bomb/grenade are a good weapons or no ?
atm i try to use them but it seems to take a lot of times to buildup toxicity + the tox smoge dissipes quite fast

am i using them wrong ?

Didn't use them a lot, but they made a lot of damages on my side.

I think it can be very strong, but you need to use a lot of them to cover a large part of the battlefield, and your troops need to be immune to it or at least resistant.

And also pray for the ennemy to not be immune to it.

There is one situation where it's very strong: on an almost flat battlefield it allows you to deny the few cover available.

[Jack Niggleson]

Originally posted by 76561198269730928:

Hi

i would like to know if tox shell/bomb/grenade are a good weapons or no ?
atm i try to use them but it seems to take a lot of times to buildup toxicity + the tox smoge dissipes quite fast

am i using them wrong ?

The shells kind of suck. I tried using them to see off a few sieges and even if you're nailing every shot the radius is so tiny and lasts such a short time that you won't even make a single raider sick (much less down them) before they finish their own arty and/or reach your base.

[Defektiv]

Works well in a kill box against non-mech pawns when you're set up ready for the raid. I usually have someone spam the kill box with gas as the raid is approaching, then go in and swap out for a gun or smoke launcher when they start coming through. It drops the consciousness of the enemies that come in first, which are usually the drugged up and quicker ones, and mitigates some of their strengths. Then the smoke launcher forces enemies that have taken up sniper positions to move in closer to get killed.

[Ombrero]

too bad, i was hoping to make a full 100% tox resistance squat team to play with those shell/grenade launcher while raiding base/quest, but looks like i'll hve to use the traditionnal weapons