What's your/best vamp strategy?

[lol why am I here?]

Do you just make one very strong vamp which is easy to maintain or... Do you go for a vampire army as fast as you can, biting others whenever genes have regrown? Or something else?

[lol why am I here?]

I started biting early, but I fear the amount of blood prisoners I will have to maintain if I keep multiplying every year. Also the amount of food to keep those prisoners alive. Also worry about the wealth value all those prisoners will bring...

Would love to hear what everyone else is doing :)

[Jack Niggleson]

Originally posted by Hex:istential.Crisis:

I started biting early, but I fear the amount of blood prisoners I will have to maintain if I keep multiplying every year. Also the amount of food to keep those prisoners alive. Also worry about the wealth value all those prisoners will bring...

Would love to hear what everyone else is doing :)

If you can find the deathless gene and some archite a deathless prisoner can be fed on infinitely as often as necessary without dying. You don't have to feed them either.

[Hoki]

i play sanguophages simply as an exile story. i dont transfer genes unless necessary. in yesterdays situation my vampire had a daughter who was about to die to plague and only as a last resort i turned her at 99%

noteworthy as well: if you keep turning them pawns also increase in value - not just the prisoners

[Ancamarth]

Frankly, I'm not sure having prisoners to build blood farms is a very optimized option.
Apart from roleplaying considerations, which are rather nauseous by the way, a prisoner brings no added value compared to a consenting colleague for a blood test, who can work effectively on his side, and participate in the war effort if necessary.

As for having one or more vampires in the colony, it remains above all a question of sustainability in food and blood supply.

So the question would rather be: do you have the demographic and economic means to have a second vamp, or not? A vampire needs about 7 fellow blood donors to be somewhat sustainable, in my opinion.
To do with possible genetic improvements such as "rapid healing", for example...

[lol why am I here?]

Originally posted by Ancamarth:

compared to a consenting colleague

My problem with that is that it requires more time, as in an operation to extract the blood, to not get that mood debuff on your companions.

[Madcain]

on my current game i have 3 vamps in a population of 20.

i started the game with the OG scenario and all biotech stuff i encountered during the normal progression.

i actually didnt exploit the poor vamp lying downed on the ground but instead i captured, converted and recruited him.

the only real use i have of them is the coagulate ability but in the late game i have the coagulate implant in most of my peasants.

the only thing they are very good at is coagulating near death enemies to ensure they get a lifetime in prison.

[Grishnerf]

you just need 1 "good" prisoner that never will do a prison break, genie race for example.
you ll have steady supply over time forever.
and then you harvest every raider that survived the onslaught for lung kidney, blood, then liver -> dead.
i dont know what to do wth all the bloodbags honestly.
also the upgrade bonuses for the sarcophagus stack, if you build more of the same one
to maximize every drop of blood.

[Ancamarth]

I admit that for me, having a vampire is not so much the immediate healing bonuses in the middle of battle as the psychological calm that this feeling of immortality provides, and having a character that the we upgrade to make it a jewel in certain areas of competence, without fear that a battle or an accident will break its destiny forever

[Helios]

Originally posted by Grishnerf:

you just need 1 "good" prisoner that never will do a prison break, genie race for example.
you ll have steady supply over time forever.
and then you harvest every raider that survived the onslaught for lung kidney, blood, then liver -> dead.
i dont know what to do wth all the bloodbags honestly.
also the upgrade bonuses for the sarcophagus stack, if you build more of the same one
to maximize every drop of blood.

if you get the dead calm gene from genies all prisoners wont escape anymore if you give them a seed with it.

[Ancamarth]

Originally posted by Helios:

Originally posted by Grishnerf:

you just need 1 "good" prisoner that never will do a prison break, genie race for example.
you ll have steady supply over time forever.
and then you harvest every raider that survived the onslaught for lung kidney, blood, then liver -> dead.
i dont know what to do wth all the bloodbags honestly.
also the upgrade bonuses for the sarcophagus stack, if you build more of the same one
to maximize every drop of blood.

if you get the dead calm gene from genies all prisoners wont escape anymore if you give them a seed with it.

This game still allows some serious crap, huh...

[Kazouie]

Originally posted by Ancamarth:

Originally posted by Helios:

if you get the dead calm gene from genies all prisoners wont escape anymore if you give them a seed with it.

This game still allows some serious crap, huh...

at least they'd still have legs :P

[Playzr 🐵]

I have one vampire who joined and my impression of it is the negatives outweigh the positives. I think it'd be more for role playing being vampires than being more powerful. Also the source of blood is disturbing and I just spawned some in instead of setting up a blood harvesting prison. They need to death rest for 3 days, how do you get anything done? It's a good thing they're not essential and have only been used as an extra hauler so far.
I'm interested in acquiring some good genetic modifications to make an enhanced human at some point but it takes time to buy these things from traders. As you need to acquire blood from humans, even enemies, I see it as kinda evil.

[Jack Niggleson]

Originally posted by Рlαγζr 🐵:

I have one vampire who joined and my impression of it is the negatives outweigh the positives. I think it'd be more for role playing being vampires than being more powerful. Also the source of blood is disturbing and I just spawned some in instead of setting up a blood harvesting prison. They need to death rest for 3 days, how do you get anything done? It's a good thing they're not essential and have only been used as an extra hauler so far.
I'm interested in acquiring some good genetic modifications to make an enhanced human at some point but it takes time to buy these things from traders. As you need to acquire blood from humans, even enemies, I see it as kinda evil.

If you load them up with deathrest serum you can attach accelerators to the coffin and make their deathrest go faster. Overall they are kind of a letdown though, I agree. Of the "hemogen" abilities, only jump and coagulate are particularly useful and they just do the same things as a jump pack and medicine respectively.

[Playzr 🐵]

I built them all the deathrest stuff since I have the resources, but I think it still said 3 days. I wonder how vampire colonies death rest in shifts and what happens when raiders show up during one of these big sleeps and they don't have a kill box.
I think it would make sense to be able to extract blood from raider corpses, but it has to come from the living. I would argue that blood in a recently deceased corpse is still blood. Perhaps somebody could 'weekend at bernies' the corpse with a system of pulleys to fool the vampire.

[Jack Niggleson]

Originally posted by Рlαγζr 🐵:

I built them all the deathrest stuff since I have the resources, but I think it still said 3 days. I wonder how vampire colonies death rest in shifts and what happens when raiders show up during one of these big sleeps and they don't have a kill box.

You can attach more than one of each deathrest add-on. They're supposed to stack. The vampire in question just needs to have enough deathrest capacity (expanded by that deathrest serum stuff) to take advantage of them.