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Sinnamon Oct 29, 2022 @ 2:29pm
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Pale yellow skin gene is called "Banana," Is this okay?
I'm sure Tynan would not have chosen this word on purpose, but "Banana" and "Twinkie" were words that was used to mock or insult other whitewashed Asians.
Just so happened to be, this word "Banana" is used to describe skin color gene...
I'm not sure how relevant this term is nowadays tho, just like twinkie now means something quite different. Because this would be simply chaning a line or two on xml file, I think it would be best to root out any potential problem :O

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short story long,
I was what the "bananas" and "twinkies" used to call a "Fob". We FOBs found that offensive. bananas and twinkies were words we used to fight them back, and our older generations used those words to make fun of the younger generations who are losing their own cultural touch. I believe this is the Asian version of the term "Oreo"(at this point, IDK if you think it's another made-up word or something). As many first and second gen Asian go through(or went through, for IDK how young ones are now) some sort of identity crisis revolving around their culture.

As I was creating a translation of the game, I stumbled upon the word "banana" which was used to create a name for the gene packs(not sure where exactly it is being applied yet) with pale "yellow" skin. Although I presume that it was not acknowledged by the creators of the game, as many of you think is not a problem, I thought it could potentially cause problems for whom did not like the word. so I wanted to bring it to the attention before it does become a problem.

The term was used a lot less frequently than I thought it was because nobody see it as a problem, so I only tried to explain my thoughts.

I'd appreciate you not making wild assumptions about who I am.
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Jigain Oct 29, 2022 @ 10:15pm 
Originally posted by briezee:
Originally posted by Jigain:

I guess the moral of the story is that just because a word has at some point, by someone, been used a racial slur it doesn't mean that all use of that word is banned.

Not all use of the word banned, no. But if it was a slur at one point, you might want to think twice before using it to describe race.
But neither should you immediately jump to the conclusion of "someone used the word 'banana' to describe a shade of yellow, clearly they're racist against Asian people!"

For the record, I've never heard either of the three racial slurs mentioned in the OP before today, leading me to believe they're quite local for where the OP lives / grew up. Of course that may not be true, but if it was wide-spread I'd have thought the slurs would manage to be mentioned at some point, somehow, in any of the media I've partaken of in the past fifty plus years.
somerandomperson Oct 29, 2022 @ 10:28pm 
jesus we're still talking about this? I thought this discussion would be buried by now
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darksouls Oct 29, 2022 @ 10:31pm 
Originally posted by Sinnamon:
I'm sure Tynan would not have chosen this word on purpose, but "Banana" and "Twinkie" were words that was used to mock or insult other whitewashed Asians.
Just so happened to be, this word "Banana" is used to describe skin color gene...
I'm not sure how relevant this term is nowadays tho, just like twinkie now means something quite different. Because this would be simply chaning a line or two on xml file, I think it would be best to root out any potential problem :O

=============================================
short story long,
I was what the "bananas" and "twinkies" used to call a "Fob". We FOBs found that offensive. bananas and twinkies were words we used to fight them back, and our older generations used those words to make fun of the younger generations who are losing their own cultural touch. I believe this is the Asian version of the term "Oreo"(at this point, IDK if you think it's another made-up word or something). As many first and second gen Asian go through(or went through, for IDK how young ones are now) some sort of identity crisis revolving around their culture.

As I was creating a translation of the game, I stumbled upon the word "banana" which was used to create a name for the gene packs(not sure where exactly it is being applied yet) with pale "yellow" skin. Although I presume that it was not acknowledged by the creators of the game, as many of you think is not a problem, I thought it could potentially cause problems for whom did not like the word. so I wanted to bring it to the attention before it does become a problem.

The term was used a lot less frequently than I thought it was because nobody see it as a problem, so I only tried to explain my thoughts.

I'd appreciate you not making wild assumptions about who I am.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgfiSzCy1o
Ebony and ivory live together with banana in harmony.
darksouls Oct 29, 2022 @ 10:35pm 
Originally posted by Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo:
Ebony and ivory live together with banana in harmony.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJZ--fcguDY
Originally posted by oh no:
Originally posted by Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo:
Ebony and ivory live together with banana in harmony.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJZ--fcguDY
Santa lucia!
rico Nov 2, 2022 @ 2:22pm 
Talk about virtue signaling. If you're not personally offended then why are you speaking for people who don't even give a ♥♥♥♥?
Chocolate Goose Nov 2, 2022 @ 2:42pm 
Originally posted by somerandomperson:
i think you're overthinking it tbh
Taberu Nov 2, 2022 @ 3:01pm 
In this game your colonist can eat another human, manslaughter as you see fit... and you are complaining about color's name?
Loli Cunnysseur Nov 2, 2022 @ 3:24pm 
I genuinely have no clue what you are basing your concerns about when your "short story" starts off with using what you have described as slurs to... immediately use it as a slur for a group of people.

Then you go about with this:


Originally posted by Sinnamon:
Originally posted by Night Foxx:

I've literally never heard either of these words used as slurs against Asians. And I've lived my life in the Southeastern US where they've made slinging slurs into a revolting art form. "Twinkie" is the only word I've heard used as an insult against a minority, and that's against gay "femboys". Though many parts of the gay community have tried to reclaim Twink/Twinkie.
:/ Idk what to tell you. I think it was used amongst Asian to Asian, and those words were used in early 2000s.

You "think" it was used, so you aren't sure?

To answer your question, Is this ok?
Yes, yes it is.
brian_va Nov 2, 2022 @ 3:27pm 
Originally posted by Astasia:
Now I have Gwen Stefani stuck in my head.
Jerk. Why'd you have to go and say that
Sash13 Nov 2, 2022 @ 3:56pm 
lol
Spirehawk Nov 2, 2022 @ 4:32pm 
...you are aware that asians arent ACTUALLY simpsons yellow irl rite?
Sinnamon Nov 2, 2022 @ 11:47pm 
I wonder why this was dug up after couple of days, but to answer some of your questions,

Originally posted by SwoleverlordMcGoo:
I genuinely have no clue what you are basing your concerns about when your "short story" starts off with using what you have described as slurs to... immediately use it as a slur for a group of people.
...
You "think" it was used, so you aren't sure?
...

As I explained, it was used in the community I was in, but as everyone claims, nobody seem to be familiar of this phrase, thus "I think it was used from Asian to Asians."


Originally posted by Taberu:
In this game your colonist can eat another human, manslaughter as you see fit... and you are complaining about color's name?

I was merely just suggesting a possibility that it might not deem as appropriate to some when it is referring to a skin color.


Originally posted by rico:
Talk about virtue signaling. If you're not personally offended then why are you speaking for people who don't even give a ♥♥♥♥?
If that's the case, why are there so many racial slurs that people find it uncomfortable using when it doesn't offend them? Also, I do give a ♥♥♥♥ because that was the word I personally used as a child to talk ♥♥♥♥ against others.
Jaasrg Nov 3, 2022 @ 12:01am 
Originally posted by Taberu:
In this game your colonist can eat another human, manslaughter as you see fit... and you are complaining about color's name?
Something something slurs are everyday occurrence irl but cannibalism isn't something something.
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