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SoundFight Jul 27, 2022 @ 3:08am
3 air conditioners cannot warm the room
I installed 3 air conditioners in a small room and indicated a temperature of 31 degrees for all. But the temperature outside is -25 degrees, and indoors - 24-25 degrees, and also after a game day. Power is connected
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AC cools rooms, Heaters warm them.
RubenGass Jul 27, 2022 @ 3:16am 
I presume you have installed coolers, the objects with a blue and red arrow. To my knowledge they only cool down a room (cold goes in on the blue side, places the heat on the red site. I don't think this object is really mean to heat rooms, you have to use a heater for that
CloudSeeker Jul 27, 2022 @ 3:17am 
Yeah. As Khan said. They are coolers and not really temp regulators.
psychotron666420 Jul 27, 2022 @ 6:43am 
Yes, coolers do not heat. You need a heater for that.
Jigain Jul 27, 2022 @ 7:16am 
In case the other messages didn't sink in, coolers =/= central heating units. Coolers cool. If you want heat, heaters heat.
Ninefinger Jul 27, 2022 @ 7:25am 
I mean you can use the backside of the cooler sometimes to heat a room beside the one you are cooling but the heating amount is uncontrollable directly, whatever heat gets pumped due to its cooling is whatever heat gets pumped.

So you can make use of the heat in some cases I personally have not really experimented with that, mainly because I play temperate year round and this seems like a handy trick to possibly get more efficiency out of a set up on more colder or extreme colder environments.
Last edited by Ninefinger; Jul 27, 2022 @ 7:25am
Eddie Jul 27, 2022 @ 7:56am 
Confused on why you'd pick Air Conditioners instead of the item labeled heater.
BLAME! 40K Jul 27, 2022 @ 7:57am 
i want to be the 6th guy , saying coolers are for cooling , you want heaters :)
fenianvoodoo Jul 27, 2022 @ 9:19am 
I tried using coolers to heat rooms adjacent to my food storage (pulling double duty to save on resources). They did not sufficiently heat during the winter, and even in mild summer they made my colonists uncomfortable.
CloudSeeker Jul 27, 2022 @ 10:48am 
Originally posted by Ponky:
Confused on why you'd pick Air Conditioners instead of the item labeled heater.
It is actually rather simple. If you look at a AC in a car, it tend to handle both heating and cooling. So it is resonable if you just look at the words and take what you know in real life and assumes that is how it works. However the mistake is most likely caused that OP thought it was a HVAC when it was only a AC.
Install the coolers with the red arrow towards the room you need heated, then drop the desired temperature to below whatever outdoor ambient is. Haven't tested it, but that should keep the cooler running perpetually and pump heat into your room from the hot side of the cooler.
Riepah Jul 27, 2022 @ 12:03pm 
I'll admit that, just like the OP, I also thought that those red/blue arrow thingies could be used for heating. The limited times I used them, they heated the room with the red arrow so much that I drew the conclusion that they do more than simply push heat out of room A into room B.
Morkonan Jul 27, 2022 @ 12:46pm 
Originally posted by Ninefinger:
I mean you can use the backside of the cooler sometimes to heat a room beside the one you are cooling but the heating amount is uncontrollable directly, whatever heat gets pumped due to its cooling is whatever heat gets pumped...

When I first played the game and didn't yet know all the buildables, I finally figured out that Coolers only cooled... "Duh," right?

Then, I got the brilliant idea that I could save parts and energy costs by just... flipping them around during the cold season.

Look... I was tired, k? Anyway, when the first one dissolved into "parts" then I rushed building campfires and scrounging for components for heaters, so my ignorance didn't freeze all my colonists to death.
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Sotanaht Jul 27, 2022 @ 1:39pm 
Originally posted by fenianvoodoo:
I tried using coolers to heat rooms adjacent to my food storage (pulling double duty to save on resources). They did not sufficiently heat during the winter, and even in mild summer they made my colonists uncomfortable.
Makes sense. The more they cool, the more they heat. Ill bet the game uses some variation of "cool 1 tile 1 degree, heat 1 tile 1 degree", adjusted for size differences. In summer, you have to cool a lot, meaning you get a ton of heat you dont need. In winter, you barely cool at all leaving not nearly enough heat. You could work around this with a bit of micromanaging though. Set the coolers to something like -50 in winter and -1 in summer, though that does risk spoilage in summer and harm to your pawns in winter on the cooled side
Jigain Jul 27, 2022 @ 8:19pm 
Originally posted by CloudSeeker:
Originally posted by Ponky:
Confused on why you'd pick Air Conditioners instead of the item labeled heater.
It is actually rather simple. If you look at a AC in a car, it tend to handle both heating and cooling. So it is resonable if you just look at the words and take what you know in real life and assumes that is how it works. However the mistake is most likely caused that OP thought it was a HVAC when it was only a AC.
I think you're confused about how car ACs work. As an ex-mechanic, I'll attempt to enlighten you.

To cool air in a car, if an AC is installed (which it is in most modern cars), a compressor turns low-pressure, low-temperature gas and turns it into high-pressure, high-temperature gas. The high-pressure gas then funnels into a condenser, which cools the gas via an exposed surface area to the air. The high-pressure, medium-temperature gas then goes through a filter to remove dust and other impurities as well as moisture, to prevent the system from freezing over. After that, the gas is converted into a low-pressure liquid via a nozzle. Finally, the (supercooled) liquid is passed through an evaporator, which works very similarly to the condenser from before, letting outside air blow over it to heat the liquid back up to its (very low) boiling point, taking up heat in the process of turning back into gas form. The air that's blown over the evaporator, cooled by transferring the heat to the liquid-gas, is what's being fanned into the cockpit.

Heating in a car is handled by an entirely separate, yet similar, system. The coolant used to ensure the engine doesn't overheat, once the engine is warm enough, is passed through a radiator to cool it. Part of this hot liquid is used to heat air via parts very similar to the condenser and evaporator from above, to be funneled into the cockpit.

This simple difference is why you can get cold air from the AC almost immediately after starting a car, yet can't get warm air until the engine starts getting warm. It's also why you can still get warm air even though you turn the AC off.

Systems such as Automatic Climate Control (ACC), Automatic Air Conditioning (AAC), or Heating Ventilation and Air Conditioning (HVAC) aren't separate units capable of doing both, it's just a cooler and a heater being used in tandem (kinda like the game).
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Date Posted: Jul 27, 2022 @ 3:08am
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