Marriage proposals changed?

[Bullwinkle]

I've had several play throughs where my colonists hooked up, got engaged, got married. Was very rare to have a proposal rejected. Now suddenly every play through no proposal is accepted. Always rejected. Every. Time.

I'm sure there is some RNG bad luck going on, but does any one know if the overall chance has changed?

[The Blind One]

just reload bro, eventually they'll accept >.<

[Playzr 🐵]

How good is their relationship? What are their opinions of each other? Also developer mode allows you to tick a debug button so you can see their compatibility.
And yeah you can save scum if you're that bothered.
There is a psy power thingy called world of love that is like cupid and will increase their chances but of course that's rare. I've never had to use it though.

[Bullwinkle]

I'm playing without DLC. Just wondering if the chance of acceptance has changed.

[Playzr 🐵]

Not that I'm aware of. It still factors in a bunch of stuff. For me it seems like the people that started off married stay married but those that got married or became lovers during the game are the ones that can break up or reject one another.

[Bullwinkle]

I loaded the save before the rejection to see what was going on. His opinion of her was 100. Her opinion of him was 100. Dev mode said they were +2.8 compatible, which looked pretty high compared to other pairs. 90% probability of acceptance. Time for some -18 mood buffs for like ever.

[Playzr 🐵]

"He was a skater boy, she said see you later boy."
That does seem like the best chance. Maybe they'll keep at it, if they don't think too less of each other because of the rejection. I've had marriage proposals rejected that worked out later. In the game.

[Bambusbjörn]

got the same thing going on. fired up the game after quite a while and also noticed proposals getting rejected left and right (at least 6 times without overacting).

You have Psychology mod? I thought maybe had sth to do with that

[Bullwinkle]

I do not have that mod.

I don't mind there is a chance of failure. I don't mind that the chance of failure seems radically higher now than in the past.

What I mind is Tynan's overall way of doing things. Everything is absolutely perfect. I mean they both have 100 opinion of each other. Not 93, not 95, freaking double 100s. OK, shouldn't be a guarantee of success, but it also shouldn't be either success or ruin my game. How about 90% chance of success, 9% chance of mildly unpleasant break-up and only 1% chance of everything spiraling out of control from a too-powerful, too-long-lasting mega malus. That is, that's what should happen when they player has executed perfect play.

But Tynan is on the record from early on saying that skilled play by the player should not be rewarded with success. It is this game's worst flaw, and what 70% of mods seem to be trying to address. Seems like he has turned his attention to the marriage proposal failure as his latest way to f*k with players. I want to play a colony builder survival game, not some F*ing "Story Generator," where I don't get a say in what the story is.

[Bambusbjörn]

Yes i also had one of my colonists rendered useless for what felt 2 years because he was "recovering" from beeing rejected on proposal twice, bonus points if then a day later his fiance decides to propose instead...and got rejected, of course.

The RNG-♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, people suddenly going picking up metal scraps inside a mech-cluster that you ordered to pick up 3 weeks ago in game, Medicine Priority 1 beeing more a mild suggestion than a setting....thats alright with me on Randy tbh.

On Cassandra, yes i agree, the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gets out of control sometimes. Still...best colonysim ever :D

[Playzr 🐵]

Imagine if you loved someone as much as possible, but they rejected your marriage proposal because they're not ready. You'd be devastated. The more you love them the harder it is to imagine your life without them. So a better emotional connection means worse feelings of rejection. People don't just immediately marry somebody even if things are going great. It takes time. If you're rejected person can't handle the mood hit because the rest of their life is so unbearable and uncomfortable then maybe it's not the happy ever after you think it would be. Give it time and they'll come around, so long as you can compensate for their feelings of rejection.