missing liver should not be instantly fatal

[Bio[redacted]]

I might not have a medical degree but i'm pretty sure missing a liver shouldn't be instantly fatal, considering some pawns can survive missing an entire stomach. I can understand instant death for a missing heart or both lungs, but kidneys? c'mon.
You can survive at least long enough to get a replacement without them.

[whatamidoing]

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[In-Bread Dog]

Pretty sure the liver is capable of regenerating, how much though I’m not aware. You can donate parts of your liver and they’ll grow back, but then again removing someone’s entire liver shouldn’t be possible. but this could just be for balance, having a reviewing organ that can be sold wouldn’t be very balanced

[whatamidoing]

You can actually live more or less fine without a stomach, btw. Didn't know it until the game made me look into it, but it's a real thing.

[Bio[redacted]]

Originally posted by whatamidoing:

You can actually live more or less fine without a stomach, btw. Didn't know it until the game made me look into it, but it's a real thing.

yeah I know how digestion works. the stomach isn't the entire thing of the nutrient process, just where the acid is stored.

[Dr.Desty Nova]

Originally posted by In-Bread Dog:

Pretty sure the liver is capable of regenerating, how much though I’m not aware. You can donate parts of your liver and they’ll grow back, but then again removing someone’s entire liver shouldn’t be possible. but this could just be for balance, having a reviewing organ that can be sold wouldn’t be very balanced

It doesn't magically regrow from nothing ^^

If there is no complication, it can eventually regenerate in like a month but from what I gather it's mostly replacing damaged tissue. It can regrow missing part but from some kind of healty leftover.

But even so, if a chunck of liver suddently go missing from lets say getting shot at multiple time you may very well straight up die from shock, blood loss or septicemia before you get to ponder if one could survive liver free or if it will eventually grow back

[St3amfails]

It will regenerate roughly a third as long as the rest is there, and while you are right that you could probably survive temporary (long enough for emergency surgery) if the blood loss didnt get you, it wouldnt be much longer than that.

[The Former]

Originally posted by Dr.Desty Nova:

Originally posted by In-Bread Dog:

Pretty sure the liver is capable of regenerating, how much though I’m not aware. You can donate parts of your liver and they’ll grow back, but then again removing someone’s entire liver shouldn’t be possible. but this could just be for balance, having a reviewing organ that can be sold wouldn’t be very balanced

It doesn't magically regrow from nothing ^^

If there is no complication, it can eventually regenerate in like a month but from what I gather it's mostly replacing damaged tissue. It can regrow missing part but from some kind of healty leftover.

But even so, if a chunck of liver suddently go missing from lets say getting shot at multiple time you may very well straight up die from shock, blood loss or septicemia before you get to ponder if one could survive liver free or if it will eventually grow back

Considering that getting kicked in the liver can send even veteran UFC fighters to the mat in a crippled state at the snap of one's fingers, I'd say the odds are actually pretty good that's exactly what would happen.

[Minty Fresh]

Do remember this is a game. In the real world you might survive a couple of days without a liver or both kidneys (and I'd imagine you wouldn't feel too good while you were waiting to die), but Rimworld has about 60 days in a year. The equivalent of surviving a couple of days (bedridden and in pain) in the realworld would be a couple of hours of time in the Rimworld. There isn't much point, so I guess it's more straightforward to just let them die immediately in the game.

[Astasia]

Liver failure results in death in less than a day usually, and I think that is with active medical treatment. One day in RimWorld is like a week as mentioned (colonists starve to death in about 48 hours instead of the couple weeks or so it would take IRL), so while it wouldn't be "instant" death, the pawn would die faster than you could do anything about it unless the liver was blown out inside your hospital with a spare liver right next to them. It would be pointless to have the pawn "live" for another 2-3 hours with nothing you can do to help them in 99% of situations.

Missing kidneys I've seen it's possible to live anywhere from a couple days to a couple weeks, but again this is with medical treatment and various specific medicines to slow toxin buildup. I think realistically without those specific drugs it would probably be a similar situation as stated for the liver above, 3-6 hours of "living" left converted to RimWorld time which is not enough to do anything about it usually.

Granted the game allows you to treat heart attacks, so the decision is made on a case by case basis. There is reason to go either way with it and it's just up to the devs on how to deal with it.

That said in my 2000 hours played I don't recall a colonist dying to a destroyed liver or kidneys. The liver has enough health that an armored colonist is never going to have it destroyed in one hit, and the odds of getting both kidneys blown out in one fight is astronomical. Leaving a colonist with only one kidney is a death sentence if they get a disease or infection so that's something you replace immediately.