Why still no ability to quite literally start with nothing?

[ewizard]

I would really love the opportunity for research to be set to nothing for a true start with nothing approach. Maybe even have the ability to be undeclared at the start and not be a tribe or anything. I know you can edit the files to remove research, nut it would be better to have as an optional gameplay mode for true survival test, especially those of us that love to start solo in this manner. Still overall a great game dont get me wrong, love the new modes and improvements! Just feel like this is a small ask. Maybe one day?

[Dracupuncture]

have you fiddled around with the "scenario editor" its available when you select "crashlanded, lost tribe, etc"
from there you can disable research as well as adjust multipliers like research speed etc to your hearts content. but maybe you're already aware of this and this is useless info. either way goodluck.

[ᖇIᑎ]

You can't disable research from the scenario editor. You can't even disallow the research bench for 'disallow buildings'. Though there are mods that add the option to start with no research to the scenario editor. It's not a vanilla option.

[Big [REDACTED] Marty]

you can set research speed to 0% with stat multiplier

[ᖇIᑎ]

How would that start you off with no research?

[Minty Fresh]

No starting research and no ability to do research? It's a pretty marginal thing to expect to be available in vanilla - I can't see many players going for that play through. What's the point? Just to run around hitting rabbits over the head with a club while wearing a bit of fur until you eventually die when someone rocks up with a gun?

If you really want to go down that path just edit the save file to remove the starting techs (very easy to do) and just don't researching anything new.

[ᖇIᑎ]

No starting research mods are very popular with tribal and medieval playthrough players.

[Minty Fresh]

Originally posted by Stariali:

How would that start you off with no research?

Open the save file for a saved game (options > open save data folder > right click and open with notepad), do a search for "researchManager" scroll down to the section under it with the <li>0</li> options and change any that have a number to "0" then save.

[ᖇIᑎ]

I think you're confusing me with OP.

[Astasia]

Originally posted by ewizard:

Maybe one day?

Probably not. We already have people constantly posting about how unbalanced naked brutality is even though there's a warning about it. Can you imagine if there was a mode that started with 0 research? The number of threads about people dying to an early heatwave... *shudder*

[ᖇIᑎ]

I think it should at least be an option in the scenario editor, honestly. Only people specifically looking for it would know where it was, anyway. So they'd know what they were getting into.

[schnappkatze]

Originally posted by Stariali:

I think it should at least be an option in the scenario editor, honestly. Only people specifically looking for it would know where it was, anyway. So they'd know what they were getting into.

After hundreds of Rimworld hours I just found out because of your post how much you can edit your start with the scenario editor. I was always annoyed that you start with Naked Brutality Crashland Tech Level and not Tribal Tech. Boom, you can just change it there.

I agree, no technology start should be an option there.

[BlackSmokeDMax]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2537426981

[ᖇIᑎ]

Originally posted by schnappkatze:

Originally posted by Stariali:

I think it should at least be an option in the scenario editor, honestly. Only people specifically looking for it would know where it was, anyway. So they'd know what they were getting into.

After hundreds of Rimworld hours I just found out because of your post how much you can edit your start with the scenario editor. I was always annoyed that you start with Naked Brutality Crashland Tech Level and not Tribal Tech. Boom, you can just change it there.

I agree, no technology start should be an option there.

LOL! Case in point.

[Security Cam #7]

Originally posted by Astasia:

Originally posted by ewizard:

Maybe one day?

Probably not. We already have people constantly posting about how unbalanced naked brutality is even though there's a warning about it. Can you imagine if there was a mode that started with 0 research? The number of threads about people dying to an early heatwave... *shudder*

No starting research on naked brutality is really, really HARD! Once you get another pawn you pretty much have to dedicate the majority of his time into researching stuff so you can still advance along with the strength of the raids instead of being left behind with bows, clubs and awful autopistols & revolvers.

[ODevil]

Originally posted by Stariali:

You can't disable research from the scenario editor. You can't even disallow the research bench for 'disallow buildings'. Though there are mods that add the option to start with no research to the scenario editor. It's not a vanilla option.

You can actually disable Research completely with Ideology Precepts now.