Body Purist is too negative to have

[R for Reload]

They should give people with body purist have bonuses to their fleshy parts.

[Kanjejou]

Originally posted by jfoytek:

I am confused here what exactly is so negative about not giving your people mechanical limbs and peg legs????

Heck I have it as a tenant of my religion and I am not really finding anything negative about it as I normally NEVER gave my people mechanical limbs I have always played a body purist even before this religion dlc....

And I have never found it to be a severe Nerf of game breaking limitation??? What exactly is it that's such a huge Nerf for you??? To even make this post???

To make it simple without mods its impossible to keep colonist in one piece, every fight will take a finger an eyes or a small bit of their body or simply leave scares on them, thus little by little you end up with an army of crippled angry old mens.

without body purity you can recover the lost skill and even improve you guys and end up with super human killing machines that heal kill and do everythign faster.


Other meme even with heavy effect like nature supremacy/live in the dark/tunneller and stuff give you some pro witht he bad.

Flesh purity give you a good medic that give extra mood to the patient, can heal fast and well, and 150% surgery succes which end up useless 90% of the time since surgery is mostly used for cybernetic and artificial stuff.
Also no drugs (so no mood d buff in extreme situation)

[Lord Freedom]

Body Purist is INTENDED to be a negative buff (debuff).

Have you ever played Kenshi? Are you familiar with the Holy Nation? A cult of religious zealots who have outlawed all forms of robotics. To be like the metal ones is a high crime against the mighty Okran - and the punishment is death.

Do the same thing in Rimworld. Instead of fixing that colonist's leg... sacrifice them to appease the Gods. Cyborgs are inhuman creatures that should be exterminated on sight.

[Ducks on Fire]

Originally posted by R for Reload:

Originally posted by RCMidas:

Body Purist is not meant to be a good, bonus-giving trait. Like Depressive or Pyromaniac are not meant to be good, bonus-giving traits.

Why wouldnt it need to be, There should be positives to it.

Why should there be a positive to it? The body purist trait as it is makes sense. It should be changed just because you have some weird problem with it.

[Jirki88]

If you want a deeper perspective on the Body Purist/Body Modder views, go play Deus Ex: Human Revolution and Deus Ex: Mankind Divided. Those would give you a better understanding of the moral and ethical dilemmas involved. Since those traits are purely ethical, it has nothing to do with being a "puritan" who strives to be perfect through nutrition, exercise and all that jazz.

[Makeithappen]

Currently a body purist to have a pure body requires all its limbs, no scars or injuries, or implants of any kind right?
When they have a pure body with none of that, they get no buff right? I doubt we will get a positive for this trait on account that there are dozens of tech options to remove scars, restore limbs that are not exactly easy to get, nor would a body purist want any foreign non-organic mad science project fiddling with their bodies.
I just see it as a negative trait.

[schnappkatze]

Nope, according to the wiki it is just about having artificial body parts in you.

As other have already said: It is a negative trait that provides flavor, nothing else. You don't become more healthy or athletic from being squeamish or being philosophically opposed to artificial body parts.

[HighFlyer96]

Originally posted by R for Reload:

Originally posted by Zane87:

No, because this is not about having an easy, pleasurable experience, this is about challenges that need to be overcome.

Body purists is the negative of the pair as others pointed out, and it's part of the challenge to deal with their limitations. As the game states itself, not all pawns are good, some pawns are less than useless and it's all part of the game.

If you dislike one part though, you can mod quite a lot in Rimworld...

Yes but body purists should be a PEOPLE who push their bodies further then those who arent.

Sorry, in my opinion this viewpoint is so wrong, I just felt I needed to revive this necro thread. Feel free to lock it afterwards.

First of all, it's called Traits, not Positive Traits. So there is no urge to have an upsite to this.

Secondly, sure, you can have the narrative that they are happy to be all natural, but in everyday life, you're not especially grateful to not have cancer. You're damn unhappy if you do have cancer, but normally you're indifferent if not complete ignorant if you do not have something you do not wish to have.

And the urge to push your body, well, that is also a complete different thing. Just because some people do absolutely not want to be overweight doesn't imply they're gymrats trying to Arnold Schwarzenegger their body. There are people who are indifferent about being average but negative about being overweight. It's likely the majority of the people.

In my conclusion, I believe, while this Trait is undesirable, it's well made and does not require more tinkering. If you wish to waste your Healer Mech Serum on a body purist pawn rather than fixing all the shattered noses, you can even use him in combad. External additions like weakening this effect with higher social skills should be emphasized. Otherwise the pawn will eventually end up as an outcast

[R for Reload]

Originally posted by HighFlyer96:

Originally posted by R for Reload:

Yes but body purists should be a PEOPLE who push their bodies further then those who arent.

Sorry, in my opinion this viewpoint is so wrong, I just felt I needed to revive this necro thread. Feel free to lock it afterwards.

First of all, it's called Traits, not Positive Traits. So there is no urge to have an upsite to this.

Secondly, sure, you can have the narrative that they are happy to be all natural, but in everyday life, you're not especially grateful to not have cancer. You're damn unhappy if you do have cancer, but normally you're indifferent if not complete ignorant if you do not have something you do not wish to have.

And the urge to push your body, well, that is also a complete different thing. Just because some people do absolutely not want to be overweight doesn't imply they're gymrats trying to Arnold Schwarzenegger their body. There are people who are indifferent about being average but negative about being overweight. It's likely the majority of the people.

In my conclusion, I believe, while this Trait is undesirable, it's well made and does not require more tinkering. If you wish to waste your Healer Mech Serum on a body purist pawn rather than fixing all the shattered noses, you can even use him in combad. External additions like weakening this effect with higher social skills should be emphasized. Otherwise the pawn will eventually end up as an outcast

I think you forget they made the healing pods now.
plus of individuality was lost with ideology.
Bio regenators I cant remember their name

[Lord Freedom]

Originally posted by R for Reload:

Originally posted by HighFlyer96:

Sorry, in my opinion this viewpoint is so wrong, I just felt I needed to revive this necro thread. Feel free to lock it afterwards.

First of all, it's called Traits, not Positive Traits. So there is no urge to have an upsite to this.

Secondly, sure, you can have the narrative that they are happy to be all natural, but in everyday life, you're not especially grateful to not have cancer. You're damn unhappy if you do have cancer, but normally you're indifferent if not complete ignorant if you do not have something you do not wish to have.

And the urge to push your body, well, that is also a complete different thing. Just because some people do absolutely not want to be overweight doesn't imply they're gymrats trying to Arnold Schwarzenegger their body. There are people who are indifferent about being average but negative about being overweight. It's likely the majority of the people.

In my conclusion, I believe, while this Trait is undesirable, it's well made and does not require more tinkering. If you wish to waste your Healer Mech Serum on a body purist pawn rather than fixing all the shattered noses, you can even use him in combad. External additions like weakening this effect with higher social skills should be emphasized. Otherwise the pawn will eventually end up as an outcast

I think you forget they made the healing pods now.
plus of individuality was lost with ideology.
Bio regenators I cant remember their name

What is this abomination?! The Way of Flesh will provide all that you need. There is no need for such degenerative technology while the True Gods reside in your Flesh.

Strike down all that violates the Way of Flesh, and you will become one of the Chosen. Corrupt what the True Gods have given you, and we will pull the Flesh from your bones!

[R for Reload]

Originally posted by Lord Freedom:

Originally posted by R for Reload:

I think you forget they made the healing pods now.
plus of individuality was lost with ideology.
Bio regenators I cant remember their name

What is this abomination?! The Way of Flesh will provide all that you need. There is no need for such degenerative technology when the True Gods already reside directly inside you, your cells, tissue...

Strike down all that violates the Way of Flesh, and you will become one of the Chosen. Corrupt what the True Gods have given you, and we will pull the Flesh from your bones!

Alright this is a DISCUSSION leave your ROLE PLAY outta here SMH

[Lord Freedom]

Originally posted by R for Reload:

Originally posted by Lord Freedom:

What is this abomination?! The Way of Flesh will provide all that you need. There is no need for such degenerative technology when the True Gods already reside directly inside you, your cells, tissue...

Strike down all that violates the Way of Flesh, and you will become one of the Chosen. Corrupt what the True Gods have given you, and we will pull the Flesh from your bones!

Alright this is a DISCUSSION leave your ROLE PLAY outta here SMH

I'm just trying to make the point that Body Purist is and should be a negative buff

[R for Reload]

Originally posted by Lord Freedom:

Originally posted by R for Reload:

Alright this is a DISCUSSION leave your ROLE PLAY outta here SMH

I'm just trying to make the point that Body Purist is and should be a negative buff

TBH yeah I get that but I was looking at it being a way to have fit characters and so forth seeing as the game doesn't actually support taking care of your body and being fat is perfectly okay. (Granted body purists can be fat)

[Bouncer]

Originally posted by HighFlyer96:

Originally posted by R for Reload:

Yes but body purists should be a PEOPLE who push their bodies further then those who arent.

Sorry, in my opinion this viewpoint is so wrong, I just felt I needed to revive this necro thread. Feel free to lock it afterwards.

First of all, it's called Traits, not Positive Traits. So there is no urge to have an upsite to this.

Secondly, sure, you can have the narrative that they are happy to be all natural, but in everyday life, you're not especially grateful to not have cancer. You're damn unhappy if you do have cancer, but normally you're indifferent if not complete ignorant if you do not have something you do not wish to have.

And the urge to push your body, well, that is also a complete different thing. Just because some people do absolutely not want to be overweight doesn't imply they're gymrats trying to Arnold Schwarzenegger their body. There are people who are indifferent about being average but negative about being overweight. It's likely the majority of the people.

In my conclusion, I believe, while this Trait is undesirable, it's well made and does not require more tinkering. If you wish to waste your Healer Mech Serum on a body purist pawn rather than fixing all the shattered noses, you can even use him in combad. External additions like weakening this effect with higher social skills should be emphasized. Otherwise the pawn will eventually end up as an outcast

I think I can see where you are coming from, but I do disagree that the trait is well made. imo body purists (and body modders) should not consider peg legs and prostetics equal to bionics and archotech. There is quite the difference between Captain Hook and Robocop. That's the only change they'd need.

[Doomdrvk]

Necro, locking.