Ideology DLC worth it?

[Tomoko]

I'm talking strictly the DLC here, not the update.

I remember when Royalty dropped, I heard a lot of people say that the DLC was overpriced and had very little actual content for the price point. After purchasing it, I don't regret my purchase, but it definitely was a little underwhelming. The price point was only offset by being a requirement for some mods out there.

Now I have to ask the same question for Ideology. For people who have bought it: Do you think the DLC itself is worth it? To be clear, this isn't a money issue. I can choose to buy it or not and it won't affect me. I'm simply asking if it's worth the price point of (What I assume is) 20USD.

If this question is a bit vague or requires more explanation, then I'd ask a similar question:
Is the content provided by the Ideology DLC more indepth, or less indepth than the content provided by Royalty? They're the same price, so if it contains less it would answer my question as "It's probably not worth the price point", and if it contains more, then the answer would be obvious.

[MinionJoe]

I had to wipe all my mods and my saves and completely reinstall the base game and DLCs in order to get the game to load without errors. If you're not OK doing that, you may want to wait for a patch or two (as I should have done).

I can't actually speak to the quality of the content in Ideology, as I wasted an hour removing everything Rimworld related from my system and reinstalling. It's too late in the day for me to start delving into actually content at this point.

And I'm really just not in the mood anymore.

[Warnoise]

Not really. The stuff it adds gets old after like 30min of gameplay.

[Chama]

Watch some livestreams, rewind to the part where they start customizing their "ideology".
I'll help you out
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1092854357?t=00h44m13s

Come up with your own opinion trust me

[SubTonic]

General consensus seems to be going (and I also share it): It's worth getting if you're really into the roleplaying aspect of colonies. If your favorite thing about Rimworld is the survival elements and combat, this DLC isn't really going to offer anything on that front. Royalty is better suited for that kind of gameplay.

[Tomoko]

Originally posted by Gradymeister:

Watch some livestreams, rewind to the part where they start customizing their "ideology".
I'll help you out
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1092854357?t=00h44m13s

Come up with your own opinion trust me

Thanks for this advice, I'll take a look!

[Zalzany]

Yeah if you want a boring colony sim its not that great. You play this more for the "story" its amazingly good. Me I like looking back and remembering the stupid annoying things or amazing things that happend in a playthrough. Like my best to date was worst colonist ever, a fat, jerk of a nudist in a boreal forest playthrought. He married the best person in all my colony the one who if she died or had a break down would really ♥♥♥♥ them over.

So every winter he would lose his mind in his burka, strip naked and wander into the snow till he passed out, got frostbite and I had to cross fingers the doc could save his damn fingers and toes every winter. I spent like 6 winters swearing up a storm at that guy as I got a notice that oh some one needs attention, and it was the damn nudist losing his ♥♥♥♥ again. Like I think one winter he lost it 3 times each time I wanted to leave him for dead, especially since he wandered so far off and the deep snow made the doc move so damn slow to go rescue his ass. But I knew if I let him freaking die it would ♥♥♥♥ up whole colony when his wife had a mental breakdown over his death.

That to me was insanely memorable I can see it just typing about it that fat bastard dropping clothes on the ground while hunting, oddly enough great hunter, and I would eventually just give up and make clubs/maces so I could send people out to beat him out cold every winter and drag his ass back so he wouldn't get frost bite again.

So yeah for me idiology adds a lot of flavor elements for rpg part of thsi game so its well worth the 20 bucks :P People looking for "usefull" things like content to make your colony more bad ass, or some kind of fancy toys. Yeah this ain't for you, try Royalty dlc :P

[cawphee.black]

first ignore the previous post ridiculing everything about rimworld as a colony sim and pigeonholing anyone that doesn't LOVE the story aspect as lame.

Second that story makes me even less interested in buying the expansion mostly because of the lame ass RP snob attitude oozing out of every line of that crappy post

third if you were a real RPer and story player you'd let the pawn freeze to death in the most awkward or humorous way and then have the real story of the colony burning down and dealing with that rather than sticking with the "boring survival" aspect that you're choosing instead

So I'm still wondering if ideology adds anything INTERESTING or new to the survival and colony sim part of the game....
and not ♥♥♥♥ that would just trivialize the game like the previous snob seems to think people that aren't RPers want...

So is it really mostly a story telling expansion? Basically it seems a bit like micromanaging more aspects about pawns to see what whacky things happen?

as for royalty I thought it was pretty disappointing too..
I liked the idea of supporting an indie studio but the DLC was pretty underwhleming IMO

[Kasa]

eehhh?

I mean it gives an in game way of making a game easier or harder but that's about it.

[Darzai]

For me it is definitely worth it. I really like the Warhammer 40k mods and the new DLC lets me create a fitting ideology for that. Well as much as Rimworld allows for anyway. Playing now as Adeptus Mechanicus (using transhumanist as base).
I made it less serious though. I prefer old Warhammer lore because it reads more like satire. So my cultists have mandatory rave parties for example.

If you play Rimworld just as colony sim, I can see how it might not be that interesting. When you assign roles to your pawns within your ideology, they do get extra abilities though. And some help with combat, research, crafting etc. Depending on role and chosen memes. This could make the survival aspect more interesting.

[Lord Freedom]

Ideology is mandatory for full experience in my opinion.

[Tomibouzu]

From the perspective of someone who doesnt hate everything related to DLC. It is pretty worth it. There's more content added than Royalty. It does allow for a lot of new ways to play rimworld.

One of the biggest additions to the game is Colony flavor. without Ideology you're basically always running the same colony with a slightly different goal. With Ideology you can have a colony specifically be psychopathic cannibals, or a cult of animal worshipers, or whatever.

The only issue I can say I have with the DLC is that if you're very used to vanilla it can be tough to change your way of thinking to make some of the special colony work. You really need to know what the Ideology you chose is about.

[Pegasys]

Yes, it's worth it. It can force you to change the way you play the game, so in that way I would say it's game-changing. For example if you've never really played a cannibal-based colony because of the standard mood debuffs, now you can set up a cannibal colony easily and instead experience different debuffs because your colonists haven't eaten meat in a number of days. There are new quests, new items, new social roles, new decor, and a new endgame quest. A lot of flexibility and even more so with today's update.

[Darzai]

Originally posted by Tomibouzu:

The only issue I can say I have with the DLC is that if you're very used to vanilla it can be tough to change your way of thinking to make some of the special colony work. You really need to know what the Ideology you chose is about.

That should be less of a problem now with the latest update for the DLC. You can now let your ideology evolve through play, instead of starting with a fully designed one.
This update fixes one of my main issues that I had with the DLC. I don't always want to plan everything in advance. Sometimes I just want a fully random start and now you can do that with ideology to some point as well.

[Lfod]

If you are a person that doesn't mind buying a DLC to expand upon a game you already love and play a lot then the DLC is worth it 100%. If you are a person looking to buy a DLC because you don't play Rimworld and hoping for a reason to want to play again then the DLC most likely isn't for you.

It was worth it for me and I am enjoying the extra content but that doesn't mean you will feel the same as I do.

[Tomoko]

Why did you necro this. What.