Food Poison is bullcrap

[The Blind One]

Me: No way you get food poison this often in real life, ''This is bullcrap''.

Also me: **gets food poisoned twice in a row in a span of 2 weeks** ''This is bullcrap''.

(real life)

[Morkonan]

I wonder if pawns use canned salmon in their salmon mousse Fine Meals? That'd do it...

[Ducks on Fire]

That sucks, but I had to eat without a table three times this week.

[The Blind One]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ducks on Fire:

That sucks, but I had to eat without a table three times this week.

Damn bro that's rough living!

I bet you went through a mental break or 3 from that experience.

[AmesNFire]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Blind One:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ducks on Fire:

That sucks, but I had to eat without a table three times this week.

Damn bro that's rough living!

I bet you went through a mental break or 3 from that experience.

Only if their ideology didn't have rough living.

[AmesNFire]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von twistedmelon:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von dande313:

Switch to nutri-paste for all your meals, and you'll never have food poisoning again.

Also never have a flavour experience :-(

Just smear some old nutri-paste on the top, it'll provide a crunchy texture with a bit of vomitty-ash taste.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jaggid Edje:

I just made sure to start with one pawn with very good cooking skill and kept the camp site clean.

You got a nasty kitchen and/or have people assigned to cooking who do not know what they are doing.

I think a lot of players who have their pawns get FP don't keep their kitchens organized and run by a pawn with good cooking skills.

I've seen how bad cooks prepare their meals, it's terrifying in some cases.

[Jaggid Edje]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von AmesNFire:

I think a lot of players who have their pawns get FP don't keep their kitchens organized and run by a pawn with good cooking skills.

I've seen how bad cooks prepare their meals, it's terrifying in some cases.

Just the simple act of not washing hands is all too common irl.

I've been in restaurants where staff used the same restroom as the public and have all too often seen staff exit after doing their business....without washing their hands.

I don't return to those restaurants ever again...it's absolutely disgusting, especially when you have worked in food safety for over a decade like I did and received way too much knowledge about really gross things.

[AmesNFire]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jaggid Edje:

Just the simple act of not washing hands is all too common irl.

I've been in restaurants where staff used the same restroom as the public and have all too often seen staff exit after doing their business....without washing their hands.

I don't return to those restaurants ever again...it's absolutely disgusting, especially when you have worked in food safety for over a decade like I did and received way too much knowledge about really gross things.

Profits before safety, don't you know?

I've worked in a commercial kitchen before, it felt like I was one of two people who gave any dimes about food safety and cleanliness.

[pauloandrade224]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jaggid Edje:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von AmesNFire:

I think a lot of players who have their pawns get FP don't keep their kitchens organized and run by a pawn with good cooking skills.

I've seen how bad cooks prepare their meals, it's terrifying in some cases.

Just the simple act of not washing hands is all too common irl.

I've been in restaurants where staff used the same restroom as the public and have all too often seen staff exit after doing their business....without washing their hands.

I don't return to those restaurants ever again...it's absolutely disgusting, especially when you have worked in food safety for over a decade like I did and received way too much knowledge about really gross things.

To be fair they dont care about the customer s health only that they pay for the food.

Which us absolutely disgusting hopefully they learn the hard way thats not something u should do.

[Morkonan]

[quote=Jaggid Edje;30404811801...
Just the simple act of not washing hands is all too common irl.

I've been in restaurants where staff used the same restroom as the public and have all too often seen staff exit after doing their business....without washing their hands.

I don't return to those restaurants ever again...it's absolutely disgusting, especially when you have worked in food safety for over a decade like I did and received way too much knowledge about really gross things. [/quote]

The back-end of a restaurant is, no matter how much of a show-kitchen it might be, always going to be nastier than just about any home's kitchen.

I've seen a good percentage of every major chain's back-ends... That didn't come out, right. That didn't, either... Uh...

Many people who've never seen one wouldn't like their favorite restaurant so much if they could see behind the curtain. The sheer amount of "wtf is this smelly goo-gunk in the corner of the kitchen and why is it asking me for my phone number" is pretty darn bad.

For the truly good ones, the head chef and back-end management "care." They may know they're fighting a losing battle regarding some stuff, but the good ones do their best.

[ichifish]

I spent time living rough in Cambodia and North Thailand. In one village the butcher’s market stall had a sitting hammock above the butcher block where the meat is displayed (not refrigerated, ofc), so her bare feet were astride the meat. That made it easier to swat the flies away. Lots of flies ofc because there were chickens and ducks running around the dirt floor (mud when it rained).

Khmer have a specialty fermented food called prahok: you take a barrel’s worth of river fish, throw them in a wood tub with some salt, and basically leave it like that (uncovered) for six months. Sometimes you’ve got to get you hip-waders on and get in there and stir it and chase the bugs off.

You’d be surprised what DOESN’T kill you. Only time I got bad food poisoning was a fried tarantula. The oil was off and as soon as I bit into it I knew I was ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Meat and veggies are 10x better when they’ve never been refrigerated, btw.

[Jaggid Edje]

How does that prahok taste?

I've always been fascinated by the foods prepared by "burying and letting it rot" that so many different cultures have.

[AmesNFire]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jaggid Edje:

How does that prahok taste?

I've always been fascinated by the foods prepared by "burying and letting it rot" that so many different cultures have.

Open-air meat markets can actually be safer in some ways than packaged meat from a factory farm, since they only cut into the carcass itself when a customer requests the type of cut they want.

The meat you get will stay fresh and won't be exposed to the air/bugs until it is being measured and packaged for you.

Just depends on what you are willing to risk.

[ACS36]

The game shouldn't be designed to be perfectly realistic.

Food Poisoning is a balancing mechanic to make the early game more challenging and it's not hard to deal with at all once you understand how the game works.

[The Blind One]

What annoys me a lot about food poisoning is that it takes sooo long for a non-passion cook to gain even the minimum levels of cooking skill required to not constantly proudce food poisoned food. This is especially troublesome in tribal starts where you do not have nutrient paste dispenser as a cop-out mechanic. There's also no mechanic that allows you to throw away a stack of meals that you know is poisonous. Sooo annoying! I know that stack is poisoned to the brim but there's no bloody ''trash item'' button.

I once had a run where my best cook only had 3 skill and no passions. Nobody had passions in cooking lol. Even after 4 whole quadrums of cooking for half a dozen men that cook still hadn't gotten even the barest cooking skill to avoid mass food poisoning everyone.

Now I'm no master cheff but I'm pretty sure it's not that hard to cook food properly. The times I got my food poisoning was from eating raw or spoiled stuff.

Also those ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pawns never clean the bloody kitchen (in vanilla) before cooking. It's dumb as hell that I need to set a pawn specifically to clean to avoid the kitchen from becoming a mess. This why I often resort to turning my designated cook into the house maid as well ... clean and then cook ...

[whatamidoing]

The vanilla solution to tracking filth into the kitchen is, funnily enough, dirt floors. They give -1 cleanliness, but you only get a greater chance of food poisoning at -2, and you can't track dirt onto dirt. Make the room decently-sized and any other filth that gets brought in shouldn't be able to bring the room down below -2 before a cleaner gets to it or you force your cook to take care of it.