What are you thinking,Tynan?

[NBB]

Are you serious? Original game are already quite expensive,and you still fix a preposterously price high for a medium-sized dlc.Just because you a successful independent game maker?Use your reputation to do this?Sorry man but I won't buy the Royal dlc until it's change to a reasonable price.
2020/2/27/ conclusion:I will buy it as soon as localization comes out,but Tynan,perhaps,maybe,just maybe,this kind of marketing strategy doesn't suitable for a cult Indie game like this,and this is not the best marketing strategy for anyone.and please don't send anything here after this post,if some guys in this post still need to say some thing to other,go other where.

[Viss Valdyr]

Originally posted by Xerberus86:

Originally posted by Champa:

For a lot of people in this world 20 dollars more per month is a really (REALLY) big thing.
If you are looking at minimum wage in America you are at 3 hours of work for that.
If you look at Eastern Europe you are looking at 8 hours of work for that amount of money.
I am not talking about India or China, I think you get what I mean.

And it most certainly doesn't mean those people have that kind of money to spend freely at the end of the month.

exactly, but you are missing one thing: you are not entitled to it! if you cant afford it, too bad for you. pc gaming isnt what your life depends on. if you cant afford it fägo get another hobby.

just because you have such low income or monthly available doesnt mean game is not reasonably priced. it just means you cant afford it. period.

stop whining like a spoiled brat.

And he is not allowed to tell other people that he can't afford it? Or am I missing something?

[Rob]

Originally posted by ;1750149700559383113:

Imagine thinking that 35$ for a game with such replayability is "quite expensive"
35$ for story driven singe player game that lasts few hours and is basically the same with every playtrough? Sure, thats somewhat expensive
35$ for randomized game that will easily provide you with double digit playtime, not to mention workshop? I wish there were more games like this, maybe not the same genre but just fun to price ratio

i seriously couldnt agree with this more. it baffles me how people complain about the price, ive gotten WAY more hours out of this game than some of the big releases from companies that are 60 bucks

[Viss Valdyr]

Originally posted by zac sux:

Originally posted by ;1750149700559383113:

Imagine thinking that 35$ for a game with such replayability is "quite expensive"
35$ for story driven singe player game that lasts few hours and is basically the same with every playtrough? Sure, thats somewhat expensive
35$ for randomized game that will easily provide you with double digit playtime, not to mention workshop? I wish there were more games like this, maybe not the same genre but just fun to price ratio

i seriously couldnt agree with this more. it baffles me how people complain about the price, ive gotten WAY more hours out of this game than some of the big releases from companies that are 60 bucks

Then more power to you, if you got your hours worth, I am happy for you! But what people are always entitled to are their opinions, everyone should respect that. (Not towards you:) so name-calling is really not the way of dealing with different opinions

[tomkpunkt]

I think you missed the point, this DLC is so much more than a mod.

[LunaticNeko]

Given that this new content consists of an entirely new UNIQUE faction and a whole new feature, I must actually say that it's awesome that, to this date, many modders have provided far more than $20 worth of content for FREE.

I'd have complained if it was an ordinary 5-item skin pack, a box of something, or some masks and hats that contribute nothing to the gameplay. This is much more than that, and some companies are still getting away with selling those skin packs for $5.

[Ronnie]

Originally posted by Digit4lC4m:

A $20 DLC is too much for you? Have you seen the ♥♥♥♥ some AAA companies put out every several months (Season pass, $10 dollar skins, maps etc.)? Heck, this indie game even gave me a thousand hours of joy, and cheaper than most AAA games out there, too. I think the dev at least deserves better than this.

Beside, the DLC is completely optional, not sure why are you guys complaining like it is the end of the world.

Why we point out the creed is that we don't need more of it in the gaming industry.
Meanwhile people like you give the developers reasons to keep trying to earn as much money as possible from as minimal work as possible. Going down the road you are is not going to end well for consumers.

[Big [REDACTED] Marty]

Originally posted by Digit4lC4m:

A $20 DLC is too much for you? Have you seen the ♥♥♥♥ some AAA companies put out every several months (Season pass, $10 dollar skins, maps etc.)? Heck, this indie game even gave me a thousand hours of joy, and cheaper than most AAA games out there, too. I think the dev at least deserves better than this.

Beside, the DLC is completely optional, not sure why are you guys complaining like it is the end of the world.

Too much is too much, something being far too much doesn't make something that is just too much not too much anymore, get it in your head. Tynan needs to hear criticism, don't pine for an echo chamber, it'll just ruin the game going forward.

[desrtfox071]

Originally posted by Ronny:

Originally posted by Digit4lC4m:

A $20 DLC is too much for you? Have you seen the ♥♥♥♥ some AAA companies put out every several months (Season pass, $10 dollar skins, maps etc.)? Heck, this indie game even gave me a thousand hours of joy, and cheaper than most AAA games out there, too. I think the dev at least deserves better than this.

Beside, the DLC is completely optional, not sure why are you guys complaining like it is the end of the world.

Why we point out the creed is that we don't need more of it in the gaming industry.
Meanwhile people like you give the developers reasons to keep trying to earn as much money as possible from as minimal work as possible. Going down the road you are is not going to end well for consumers.

Riight. Because you know more than those buying the DLC? Get a grip. Your opinion isn't worth more than anyone else. Skip the purchase if you don't want it. Post that you think it's too expensive or what not if you must. Anything else is just you being pretentious.

[Kittenpox]

This is just yet another Sale thread in disguise.

If we're going to complain about expensive DLC, can we at least focus on the genuinely overpriced ones?
https://www.steamprices.com/au/dlc/317201/lords-of-the-fallen-demonic-weapon-pack

[Raika]

Originally posted by Viss Valdyr:

Originally posted by Xerberus86:

exactly, but you are missing one thing: you are not entitled to it! if you cant afford it, too bad for you. pc gaming isnt what your life depends on. if you cant afford it fägo get another hobby.

just because you have such low income or monthly available doesnt mean game is not reasonably priced. it just means you cant afford it. period.

stop whining like a spoiled brat.

And he is not allowed to tell other people that he can't afford it? Or am I missing something?

The original person can complain if they want... but that doesn't mean people can't yell back at them for complaining about something stupid.

Xerbrus raises a pretty good point. The game developers never promised it would be available to everyone, and it's not their job to make it that way either. If you earn a really low wage, then that really sucks... but it's a $20 price tag for something that is yours forever. If people want it... they can save up for it.

I mean, I'm not even on a low wage, and I'm planning on not eating out for a month to cover the cost of this (and probably some other small things). Since at my age, I like to be increasing my savings, not dipping into them.

Honestly, what Champa is complaining about is like me jumping onto a website selling cars... and complaining that I don't want to pay $40000 for a car, I want something new, flashy and fancy for $20000. If they want to complain about how unaffordable cars are that's fine. But have the decency to not do it on the manufacturer's site (Or discussion portion of the game).

Also don't appreciate people blaming a developer for the person's personal financial difficulties. The DLC isn't over priced or limited then... the person is just poor.

[Aturchomicz]

Originally posted by the6ix:

Originally posted by nbb:

Are you serious? Original game are already quite expensive,and you still fix a preposterously price high for a medium-sized dlc.Just because you a successful independent game maker?Use your reputation to do this?Sorry man but I won't buy the Royal dlc until it's change to a reasonable price.

Get a job, stop using someone else's credit card.

Order people, lets marsh to work!

[Mr. Man!]

CreamAPI

[Zoopy]

Originally posted by Ronny:

Why we point out the creed is that we don't need more of it in the gaming industry.
Meanwhile people like you give the developers reasons to keep trying to earn as much money as possible from as minimal work as possible. Going down the road you are is not going to end well for consumers.

See, this is why the "race to the bottom" model that started in the last decade has ♥♥♥♥♥♥ the gaming industry completely. People now think it's fair to get full games and expansion packs in exchange for a handful of peanuts.

We've now got poor schoolchildren crying because a pretty hefty expansion pack costs as much as a mid-tier restaurant dinner or an average newly released fantasy novel.

Your minds are so scrambled that you truly believe the devs are greedy for expecting fair compensation for fair work, and not the whiners expecting a hefty expansion to cost three toenails and a pubic hair.

It's quite clear that the whiners have no idea what goes into game development. "But Zoopy, modders blah blah blah". No. Modders are doing it as a hobby. Tynan is doing it for a living. Nobody told modders to work without compensation. They're free to go develop their own games any time they want. The barrier to entry is pretty low.

[Champa]

The thing is for me Rimworld just lost it's magic after 120h and this rather small DLC wouldn't get me back in for 17 euros.
For someone like me this DLC would probably give 10h of fun. That's an overpriced DLC.

I'm not even saying it's vastly overpriced, something like 9,99 and I wouldn't even complain.


I am complaining though about Ludeon or Tynan knowing that a lot of people love his game and those people would even pay 30 dollars for this DLC without complaining. And that is just ripping of people because they love the base game.

Why not make the DLC 9,99 and give the option for other people to pay more?


And yes we would need a principle discussion about a lot of things, for example pricing of entertainment vs salary for work.

Oh and insulting poorer and probably harder working (for meeting ends meet) people than himself as spoiled doesn't really make the insulter look that intelligent.

[Zoopy]

Originally posted by Champa:

The thing is for me Rimworld just lost it's magic after 120h and this rather small DLC wouldn't get me back in for 17 euros.
For someone like me this DLC would probably give 10h of fun. That's an overpriced DLC.

I'm not even saying it's vastly overpriced, something like 9,99 and I wouldn't even complain.


I am complaining though about Ludeon or Tynan knowing that a lot of people love his game and those people would even pay 30 dollars for this DLC without complaining. And that is just ripping of people because they love the base game.

Why not make the DLC 9,99 and give the option for other people to pay more?


And yes we would need a principle discussion about a lot of things, for example pricing of entertainment vs salary for work.

Oh and insulting poorer and probably harder working (for meeting ends meet) people than himself as spoiled doesn't really make the insulter look that intelligent.

Cool story bro. Now don't tell it again.

Either buy it or don't. Nobody needs your life story.

Originally posted by Champa:

I'm not even saying it's vastly overpriced, something like 9,99 and I wouldn't even complain.

"I'm not saying it's vastly overpriced. Just cut the price by 50%."