Labrador weaker than foxes?

[Kael]

Yea - for real. Whats the meaning of dogs if your dogs cant kill a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fox?

[Angela™]

Foxes are tricky bastards. Labs aren't. They're just good bois.

That equates to:
Rogues > Paladins.

[AquaX]

Don’t rely your animals to be good at hunting. Chances are they would be baddly wounded. It’s faster to just get some hunters, hunt all the animals and leave a few corpses in the freezer for the predators to munch on.

[Kael]

Its not on hunting. Its just that i cant control EVERY Animal i have around and sometimes a predator is there. Also i cant create zones were predators automatically get attacked.

So i just loose my animals all the time because a small event happen, because some predator seem to SPAWN into my base and attack my animals.

[AquaX]

Ah well predators hunt animals smaller than them. The ones they love to target most is the animals during their infant stages. To prevent this check on your wildlife tab and check hunt any animals that has the predator symbol.

[Aragon]

If u think foxes can be bad....wait for the squirrels LOL

[AquaX]

Originally posted by Aragon:

If u think foxes can be bad....wait for the squirrels LOL

You should see the tortoise incident for me at one time XD. A pawn lost an eye and several toes to a dmn tortoise.

[Angela™]

Originally posted by AquaX:

Originally posted by Aragon:

If u think foxes can be bad....wait for the squirrels LOL

You should see the tortoise incident for me at one time XD. A pawn lost an eye and several toes to a dmn tortoise.

That's IRL accurate lol.
Squirrel's aren't really explained, but emus ? Those guys kick through inch thick plywood like its no ones business.

[BlueDragonXD]

Also animal balance recently took a dive in Rimworld since A17. Both for the good and the bad but it's been a balance issue right up until 1.0.

[AquaX]

Originally posted by Cyriel ᛭ᚲᛃᚱᛁᛖᛚ᛭:

Originally posted by AquaX:

You should see the tortoise incident for me at one time XD. A pawn lost an eye and several toes to a dmn tortoise.

That's IRL accurate lol.
Squirrel's aren't really explained, but emus ? Those guys kick through inch thick plywood like its no ones business.

He lost the eye before the toes.

[Angela™]

Originally posted by AquaX:

Originally posted by Cyriel ᛭ᚲᛃᚱᛁᛖᛚ᛭:

That's IRL accurate lol.
Squirrel's aren't really explained, but emus ? Those guys kick through inch thick plywood like its no ones business.

He lost the eye before the toes.

Yeah this game is a lot of "an act of god"
Questioning it only leads to insanity lol.

[Savoyard]

I lost a trained grizzly bear to a tortise. After a while, you have to take the bad with the good, or just hunt everything on the map to extinction. I guess you could keep a predator-free selection of animals and check the Wildlife tab frequently to ensure there aren't any predators out there.

[grapplehoeker]

Originally posted by Kael:

Yea - for real. Whats the meaning of dogs if your dogs cant kill a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fox?

dogs=haulers, not hunters
If you want hunting animals, go for wargs or bears.

[Kael]

Yea - But thats stupid.

Dogs were tamed for hunting, farming and other speciality.

Dogs in this game can haul 75, while they are not cost efficient and other animals are better in cost-efficiency.

I mean - foxes can carry around 41 but just have a hunger rate of 0.12, while a dog has a hunger rate of 0,5 with 75 carryin.

that means a fox can haul 4x 41 for the same price the doggo can do 1 haul.

So i got 164 Items out while the doggo just do 75.

The Fox has 0.25 less dps and only 9 HP while the dog has 12.

Soo...?

[AquaX]

I recall dogs prefer to eat vegs while foxes prefer to eat meat. This makes dogs easier to manage compared to foxes because of you encounter a bad hunting season, they will starve compared to dogs which prefer vegs and then move towards meat if issues crop up.

[Zapier]

I don't have the information in front of me either, but aren't foxes more wild than dogs? If so, taming is also another factor along with the continued training. Also, just flavor really. Lot of little factors can make different animals better or worse depending on what you're after and how many you want to manage too! More animals hauling can create more dirt than a single dog if the filth rate is combined higher... I'd have to have both to give a good comparison stat wise.

Edit: I don't know how much my mods affect the stats but just a general comparison...

Check the wildness, because if you have to keep retraining that becomes something to consider. Check the filth rate since while the foxes could haul more your pawns may be cleaning more. Nuzzling and bonding I suspect is harder with foxes. There're move speeds that could be different and so on.

Basically, haul rate and hunger rates shouldn't be your only decision factors to say one way or another if either are better or worse. They're just different.