Chronological age v Biological age

[RagnarLi]

What are the differences between the two? I mean I have colonists that say r 38 or 61 but their chronological age is 122, 500, even 900! So what is going on here and is this normal?

[KalkiKrosah]

Chronological age is the time between the year you were born and the year you at at now. Chronologically Abraham Lincoln was born in 1809 and would be 210 years old if he were alive today. 210 years would be his Chronological age.

Biological age is how old you are biologically. Abraham Lincoln died in the year 1865, which means that he died at the age of 56. Biologically he would be 56 years old since that is when he stopped aging.

In Rimworld the two different age types are because of the cryptosleep mechanic. Cryptosleep mechanics halt the aging process, so while the colonist in question sleeps inside their cryptosleep casket, never aging a day beyond that, time still moves on. Its the explanation as to why the father of an 83 year old woman is a 16 year old boy. Cryptosleep.

[believor in Prawn]

Originally posted by KalkiKrosah:

Its the explanation as to why the father of an 83 year old woman is a 16 year old boy. Cryptosleep.

we need an explanation to why a 16 year old boy is a father

[burningmime]

Originally posted by believer in zable:

Originally posted by KalkiKrosah:

Its the explanation as to why the father of an 83 year old woman is a 16 year old boy. Cryptosleep.

we need an explanation to why a 16 year old boy is a father

That wasn't very uncommon until the last ~150 years.

[KalkiKrosah]

Originally posted by believer in zable:

Originally posted by KalkiKrosah:

Its the explanation as to why the father of an 83 year old woman is a 16 year old boy. Cryptosleep.

we need an explanation to why a 16 year old boy is a father

Because the Maury Povich show exists.

[martindirt]

Originally posted by believer in zable:

Originally posted by KalkiKrosah:

Its the explanation as to why the father of an 83 year old woman is a 16 year old boy. Cryptosleep.

we need an explanation to why a 16 year old boy is a father

In the feudal age a 16 year old boy was already a man. Their expected lifetime was around 30-35 years.

But still, some cultures (like gypsys in my county) prefer early "reproducing" (Sry,I don't know better word). A 16 yrs old boy and a 16 yrs old girl sometimes already has 2 childs. At their 30s years, they are already grannies, but still giving birth to new kids.
This is why there is already more of them, than my nation. (Don't report this, I'm not racist. These are just facts.)

[Yaldabaoth]

Originally posted by martindirt:

Originally posted by believer in zable:

we need an explanation to why a 16 year old boy is a father

In the feudal age a 16 year old boy was already a man. Their expected lifetime was around 30-35 years.

This nonsense again. No, adults didn't just fall over and die at 32. For every infant that died (around 1 in 3 in the first year, and another 1 in 4 before the age of 10), one adult got to be 60-70. That's what an average life expectancy is. Unless you were unfortunate enough to live during the Black Death or the 30 years war in Germany, life wasn't so bad once you were through childhood.

[martindirt]

Originally posted by Yaldabaoth:

Originally posted by martindirt:

In the feudal age a 16 year old boy was already a man. Their expected lifetime was around 30-35 years.

This nonsense again. No, adults didn't just fall over and die at 32. For every infant that died (around 1 in 3 in the first year, and another 1 in 4 before the age of 10), one adult got to be 60-70. That's what an average life expectancy is. Unless you were unfortunate enough to live during the Black Death or the 30 years war in Germany, life wasn't so bad once you were through childhood.

Well, this is what I'm learned in medical school.
BC of the lack of medical knowledge: they don't even knew some lethal conditions, or they knew them, they don't knew how cure them. Example artery blockage. There were no medicines to cure high blood tension.
But even a simple flu killed many ppls.
And there is their life management (again, I don't know better English word):
Work, work, work, work. Crappy foods. Smoke in the houses (you know there wasn't centralized heating, and a poor peasant house didn't had a proper (many times didn't had any) chimney) caused asthma.
And many many more things what caused their expected lifetime shorter than nowadays.

If you know Romeo&Juliet (for example), you know they are only in their early teens, Juliet's mother is around 30, and she says she is a really old woman. And their families wanted them to be married (just not with each other).
But there are many more examples in the literatures, what illustrate medieval society structure, and other things.

Also, if you learn in medical school, later you got a diploma in sociology (and one more in economics, what is not relevant here), you will learn way more about these things.

[Iskander]

But does chronological age have any effect in game? Does it matter if my 16 year old's chrono age is 16 or one million?

[Yaldabaoth]

Originally posted by martindirt:

Wow, 3 diploma but still no clue. At least not about history. Please educate yourself about the impact of vaccination on infant mortality and figure out how not having 50% die at the age of 1 helps contribute to a higher average life expectancy. I'm really not in the mood to teach a doctor about science right now (too furious about your country's school standards).

Originally posted by Iskander:

But does chronological age have any effect in game? Does it matter if my 16 year old's chrono age is 16 or one million?

Chronological age doesn't matter.

[KalkiKrosah]

Originally posted by Iskander:

But does chronological age have any effect in game? Does it matter if my 16 year old's chrono age is 16 or one million?

In functionality, no. Its just that the age of any given pawn is randomized upon entering your map. And when you have age discrepancies like I noted above, it gives a logical explanation for why there is such an odd gap. It's just Tynan's simple work around by having two number systems going, one that obeys the social strata of family trees making younger generations younger than older ones and one that gives ♥♥♥♥ all about it making everyone whatever age it feels like.

[Slye_Fox]

In regards to the 16 year old father thing:
Different places have different ages of consent.
For example, the age of consent in the UK is 16, while in Ireland it's 17.

[BitterSwede]

Chronological age was something inspired by the Alien franchise, where the main protagonist only aged a couple of years between films, while hundreds of years had passed, because of her different time-skipping methods. Once she was frozen for about 80 years, another time she was frozen for about 120 years and the third time she was cloned and we meet her when her biological age is a few years after the previous film, while about 400 years had passed since her original birth.

Chronologically, she was about 400 years old, but biologically she was about 40.

Having a small challenge that is consistent for everyone right off the bat was an early concept in this game, so the "cryptosleep sickness" was created for the then only starting scenario of the crash landing.
Later, they added an actual cryptosleep casket to the game, so you could freeze your colonists, if they were about to die and you didn't have the means to save them.

Thus the need for a chronological age and a biological one was apparent. It came naturally from how the game evolved, not as a justification for the family mechanic, which was added over a year later.

[martindirt]

Originally posted by Yaldabaoth:

https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy

If one not enough, i can link more, or even scan some page from any of my books. (Hope you can read Hungarian).
Dono what education you got, but its sure, its dont hit the minimum. (Or you skipped some lessons).

[Aturchomicz]

Originally posted by Slye_Fox:

In regards to the 16 year old father thing:
Different places have different ages of consent.
For example, the age of consent in the UK is 16, while in Ireland it's 17.

13 in Austria

[KalkiKrosah]

Originally posted by Aturchomicz:

Originally posted by Slye_Fox:

In regards to the 16 year old father thing:
Different places have different ages of consent.
For example, the age of consent in the UK is 16, while in Ireland it's 17.

13 in Austria

12 in Alabama. 11 if it's your sister.