Glitter tech and Orion Corps

[Nocturnalx36]

Is there a way to counter pacifiers? I just get charged by 5-6 with Shields and can't down them fast enough to stop them.

On a side note. I'm raiding one of their colonies, so there is some restriction to the tactics I can use.

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I thought Orion Corp was neutral in the GT Mod until you tick them off?

As to counter them. Not sure. You could try setting up traps like IEDs since I don't think shields cover explosives. Otherwise I've got nothing.

[Jimboblordofeskimos]

There are a few ways to deal with shield rushes, most obvious one is counter melee.
Melee sucks early game, but a late game badass or 3 tricked out with a few bionics, shields and a decent limb lopping weapon can really wreck face.

Other options are traps, attack animal swarms, burn maze (long wooden maze including floor + single molli), embrasure maze (does anyone play without embrasures?), or just overwhelming firepower and focus fire (which is yeah... a big crapshoot, good shields will tank a lot of bullets).

I think orion corp can start off anywhere between +17 and -17 according to my admittedly spotty memory?

[Nocturnalx36]

Originally posted by Raiven Snugglebytes:

I thought Orion Corp was neutral in the GT Mod until you tick them off?

As to counter them. Not sure. You could try setting up traps like IEDs since I don't think shields cover explosives. Otherwise I've got nothing.

No idea, I was getting raided by them from fairly early in my playthrough and didn't do anything to directly provoke them. Their colony is less than a 2 day caravan from my colony though, so it might be due to proximity if nothing else.

@Jimboblordofeskimos:

I'm unsure how melee wi.ll be of any real help in all honesty. The Pacifiers seem to knock you out instantly regardless. I wonder if painkiller ribs would help much?

As for the other options. Unfortuantely they sally out of their base long before I can setup anything that extensive in terms of burn mazes. They also happen to have a mortar emplacement which, again, if I shoot at it they sally out.

I'm going to play around with embrasures and see if I can't deal with them that way. Although I have a feeling it's just going to be a ♥♥♥♥ show still due to their 3 dudes with full auto rifles with 50 range lol. That being said, I appreciate the suggestions. I have a feeling what it comes down to is I just tried to bite off far more than I can chew with my current tech level.

[Jimboblordofeskimos]

oh..... well if you are trying to attack them........ yah, id put you down as boned.
and if they have the OC defense rifles that by memory come with that mod..... dear god, those things are shredding machines, ive had colonists happily hunting elephants with those things unsupervised take out whole raids while walking home.
so yah.... you sound very boned :P.

[Nocturnalx36]

I finally managed to win without any casualties. I simply dug into the hill and waited for them on the other end and shot an RPG towards the end of the tunnel at the ground. One of the pacifiers ran out alone from their base to kill my muffalo, I shot him dead and equipped my melee with his shield and pacifier and put him in the middle of the tunnel. One of the defense rifle users ran down the tunnel first and I grabbed his rifle for one of my characters. It was a fairly short battle after that.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1125618197

[Jimboblordofeskimos]

oh yeah, that is the rifle I was thinking about.
Well, you are now very well equipped, time to go into the human leather hat trade I guess.

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I forgot about the OC Defence Rifles and Pistols. Yeah, those things are WAAAY too damaging, and their firerate is too high as well. It's a reason why I stopped using Glitter Tech. The moment you obtain an OC rifle you can pretty much hold off most raiders who aren't equipped or numerous.

The Pacifers + Shields are just too annoying to deal with. It seems like any battle the Orion Corp get into they'll normally win, even against Mechanoids.

Glad to hear you won the battle too.

[Isy]

[A17]
I had them start with -73 towards me, though it wasn't anything a bit of silver and healing a prisoner couldn't fix. I personally think they are better as allies.

[Davadin]

Originally posted by Jimboblordofeskimos:

(does anyone play without embrasures?)

Yes.