are the stupid season names a mod or just a stupid descision

[morryatay]

so i recently came back to playing, and i found that all the seasons now had stupid names, along with a stupid explanation as to why they had stupid and un-neccasary names... chances are this is a mod, with someone trying to "add" to the game and i haven't figured out who.. but, if it's not, it's slightly worrying, septober... - this is the kind of sci fi world building that lead george lucas to jar jar

i dunno, it's not really bad, but comparing it to the rest of the game it just seems really really stupid, uneeded, and uneccasary...

[LunaticDelusion]

Not a mod,it's a A17 feature.If you don't understand something it doesn't mean it's stupid.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RimWorld/comments/6ddprv/not_enjoying_the_new_season_names/di23dlu/

[BlackSmokeDMax]

They are not season names, they are month names. North and south hemispheres now have different seasons, so using season names no longer works as the date.

[morryatay]

Originally posted by LunaticDelusion:

Not a mod,it's a A17 feature.If you don't understand something it doesn't mean it's stupid.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RimWorld/comments/6ddprv/not_enjoying_the_new_season_names/di23dlu/

that article says itself that areas have local seasons still, just because you have different hemispheres doessn't mean that america has summer as apposed to australia having snɯɯǝɹ just because it's on the other side of the planet, if a planet had a particular seasonal difference, or lack thereof wouldn't it be better just to leave it blank to a season, or just have rainy and dry?

to solve it most easily you could just use days to denomintate expirations and deaths etc, then having the system keep all that in the background.

assign number of days in planets year.
assign planet type eg. seasonless, wet/dry season, seasonal x4, or x8(early/late).
when needing to check for a season make game ask which hemisphere it's in and make it assign a value to it eg. summer1 for north, summer2 for south.
once it's done all it's computer buggery in the background then it can just relable them as summer and winter for display.

it's fine to keep it displaying died 5th of summer on a tomb, or born on the 5th of spring,

as a person born in the boring hemisphere i have never seen want to question "um do you mean north or south summer." we all share the seasons as we are, we just don't have them at the same time so.

eh i've rambled on long enough, thats just my thoughs on the whole thing, also I Am Not a Coding Person so if i'm wrong thats cool too, but it kinda feels like that possiblity has been overlooked...

[Rous]

Lol reading that article I didn't know that many people got upset over portmanteaus. Maybe on a chance, one of those screechers have the capability to write a mod changing the names, and may have already done it. I'd check the forums if it bothers you that badly.

[BlackSmokeDMax]

Originally posted by morryatay:

Originally posted by LunaticDelusion:

Not a mod,it's a A17 feature.If you don't understand something it doesn't mean it's stupid.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RimWorld/comments/6ddprv/not_enjoying_the_new_season_names/di23dlu/

that article says itself that areas have local seasons still, just because you have different hemispheres doessn't mean that america has summer as apposed to australia having snɯɯǝɹ just because it's on the other side of the planet, if a planet had a particular seasonal difference, or lack thereof wouldn't it be better just to leave it blank to a season, or just have rainy and dry?

to solve it most easily you could just use days to denomintate expirations and deaths etc, then having the system keep all that in the background.

assign number of days in planets year.
assign planet type eg. seasonless, wet/dry season, seasonal x4, or x8(early/late).
when needing to check for a season make game ask which hemisphere it's in and make it assign a value to it eg. summer1 for north, summer2 for south.
once it's done all it's computer buggery in the background then it can just relable them as summer and winter for display.

it's fine to keep it displaying died 5th of summer on a tomb, or born on the 5th of spring,

as a person born in the boring hemisphere i have never seen want to question "um do you mean north or south summer." we all share the seasons as we are, we just don't have them at the same time so.

eh i've rambled on long enough, thats just my thoughs on the whole thing, also I Am Not a Coding Person so if i'm wrong thats cool too, but it kinda feels like that possiblity has been overlooked...

You aren't taking near the equator into account, where they do not have all 4 seasons.

Bascially seasons are never a great substitute for an actual date, which is why this was switched. If a pawn dies on Jugust 8, it is always correct, doesn't matter what season or hemisphere you are in. If a trader leaves your base way in the north and crosses the equator headed to the south the date doesn't do anything weird like it would if you were using the seasons as a date.

Now the quadrum (month) names on the other hand... They work, but I don't care for them either. There was a lot of discussion with the dev about this on the ludeon forums. My desire was latin or latin sounding names like Primus, Secondus, etc... Dev did what he liked, and it isn't exactly rocket science to figure it out, play a few games and you are used to it.

Having said all that, if you hover over the date, you get the season anyway.

[liosalpha]

Reading that article
https://www.reddit.com/r/RimWorld/comments/6ddprv/not_enjoying_the_new_season_names/di23dlu/

I dont see why not make their own universal counting systems for the year and have the local season displayed next to it. Also the earth as a whole has a eclips as en orbit... taking it closer to the sun in january and futher from the sun in July. so why not have global (custom named) seasons.

No mater where you are you would always still have the same "holyday season" for example.
Personaly i would name them in to virtues or something or name them after important lore people.. (like how the rl ones are dirived from roman emperers and gods.)

[Slye_Fox]

Originally posted by morryatay:

so i recently came back to playing, and i found that all the seasons now had stupid names

They're not season names, they're names for the condensed months,
Seasons are still called Winter, Spring, Summer & Autumn.

[BlackSmokeDMax]

Originally posted by liosalpha:

Reading that article
https://www.reddit.com/r/RimWorld/comments/6ddprv/not_enjoying_the_new_season_names/di23dlu/

I dont see why not make their own universal counting systems for the year and have the local season displayed next to it. Also the earth as a whole has a eclips as en orbit... taking it closer to the sun in january and futher from the sun in July. so why not have global (custom named) seasons.

No mater where you are you would always still have the same "holyday season" for example.
Personaly i would name them in to virtues or something or name them after important lore people.. (like how the rl ones are dirived from roman emperers and gods.)

While you are correct in when we are closest and furthest away, the elliptical orbit is not the reason for summer and winter, the tilt of the earth on its axis is the reason. I believe the elliptical orbit only affects the speed of the earth, and I don't think we do anything about it, we just let that average out. I think, not positive on that last part.

[liosalpha]

But its a global happening that can be universaly implemented (regardless of the local weather / season) And if im not mistake the spring and autum equnox are globaly the days where the nights are aslong as the days. So if those 2 point where given 2 (tepmorary) names like the "Rising sun" (or spring in rl USA or Eruope, so march) and the
"Falling sun" (Septembre) then the other 2 point can be the
"Southern sun" (Decembre) and the
"Northern sun", (July) respectivly to which hemisphere gets the local summers in that season.

Now the golbal season is nolonger tied in to the local seasons. And these names could be anything. Like astronaute names, animals... mythical creaturs. like how oure planets got names inspired by mythology even long after mythology was a active practise. Why not Boreas, Zephyrus, Notus and Eurus, the 4 winds from the greek myths?

[Astasia]

^Is that not exactly what was done? You are describing a quadrum system like what was added into the game. The dev decided on using mashed up Earth months as the naming system, rather than anything else.

[Grek]

tbh new system looks like ♥♥♥♥ imo

[ObscureNickname]

I sort of like the Month mixed names better than the seasons, So I can get and Idea when to celeberate christmas and give my colinists all the Yayo they can snort.

[morryatay]

the thing is we have hemispheres in the modern world already and a way to work around it, there was never a need to add quadrums in the first place.

[Astasia]

Originally posted by morryatay:

the thing is we have hemispheres in the modern world already and a way to work around it

Yes, it's called a calendar, which is comprised of months. Since there's only 4 months in a Rimworld year, he had to think of 4 month names that would work.

If you ask anyone in the modern world what day it is, nobody is going to say 51st of summer.

[morryatay]

Originally posted by Astasia:

Originally posted by morryatay:

the thing is we have hemispheres in the modern world already and a way to work around it

Yes, it's called a calendar, which is comprised of months. Since there's only 4 months in a Rimworld year, he had to think of 4 month names that would work.

If you ask anyone in the modern world what day it is, nobody is going to say 51st of summer.

true but i have never heard someone refer to death with a season other than medieval records.