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RimWorld

Jet Feb 9, 2017 @ 8:27pm
Is flooring outside worth it?
1, I see i only have 87% walk speed in natural grass, but adding pavement only boosts it up by 13. Is it worth the steel in doing so? Also will colonists prioritize using the path I make between my various buildings?

2. I see the Rimworld trailer set this up using pavement instead of cement. But I'm told the only major differences between flooring types is beauty so is it better to skimp on pavement and just make it cement if I do so?

3. Im assuming that unlike flooring, natural grass is flammable so should I add it regardless on places I want to protect, such as battery holdouts, solar, turbines?
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dj8472 Feb 9, 2017 @ 8:39pm 
1.Try using wood flooring instead, it literally grows on trees
They usualy try to find the best/fastest path, but they don't always succeed

2.again wood, unless you are in a biome where wood is scarce

3.make a 3 wide floor barrier and fire won't be able to cross over it, even if its wood it won't burn
Instead of flooring around the turbine you could make it a growing zone instead, or put your solar panels in its path, they don't block the wind
Last edited by dj8472; Feb 9, 2017 @ 8:42pm
grapplehoeker Feb 9, 2017 @ 8:43pm 
I use concrete or wooden flooring, depending on the biome and availability of resources, for plenty of 3-5 cell wide pathing over all power conduits. This helps prevent fire spreading.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=833139198
Jet Feb 9, 2017 @ 8:53pm 
Originally posted by dj8472:
1.Try using wood flooring instead, it literally grows on trees
They usualy try to find the best/fastest path, but they don't always succeed

2.again wood, unless you are in a biome where wood is scarce

3.make a 3 wide floor barrier and fire won't be able to cross over it, even if its wood it won't burn
Instead of flooring around the turbine you could make it a growing zone instead, or put your solar panels in its path, they don't block the wind
So theres no benefit at all in choosing cement or pavement then is there? I wonder why cement is included at all then. It has negative beauty, costs steel, and no flooring is flammable. Unless theres some benefit im forgetting its so odd.

3. Oh growing zones prevent fires just like flooring? Solar does too? Wow
Last edited by Jet; Feb 9, 2017 @ 8:53pm
Jet Feb 9, 2017 @ 9:01pm 
Originally posted by grapplehoeker:
I use concrete or wooden flooring, depending on the biome and availability of resources, for plenty of 3-5 cell wide pathing over all power conduits. This helps prevent fire spreading.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=833139198
The flooring makes it look so much nicer. How much steel did it end up costing ya? Thats whats holding me back from choosing it instead of wood atm.

So you run the conduits through the flooring? Hmmmmm yeah I hadnt considered that since im just about to set up my power. The 3 wide flooring fire immunity is perfect for it awesome man.
dj8472 Feb 9, 2017 @ 9:03pm 
Originally posted by Jet:
3. Oh growing zones prevent fires just like flooring? Solar does too? Wow

no they don't, the idea is to use firebreaks protect the area, while saving space for growing
Last edited by dj8472; Feb 9, 2017 @ 9:05pm
Jet Feb 9, 2017 @ 9:43pm 
Originally posted by dj8472:
Originally posted by Jet:
3. Oh growing zones prevent fires just like flooring? Solar does too? Wow

no they don't, the idea is to use firebreaks protect the area, while saving space for growing
Oh okay. I was considering making 3 turbines and having solar panels in front of them but they dont come out perfectly aligned, so i might go with a grow zone instead thanks.
Mytheos Feb 10, 2017 @ 5:02am 
Originally posted by Jet:
Originally posted by grapplehoeker:
I use concrete or wooden flooring, depending on the biome and availability of resources, for plenty of 3-5 cell wide pathing over all power conduits. This helps prevent fire spreading.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=833139198
The flooring makes it look so much nicer. How much steel did it end up costing ya? Thats whats holding me back from choosing it instead of wood atm.

So you run the conduits through the flooring? Hmmmmm yeah I hadnt considered that since im just about to set up my power. The 3 wide flooring fire immunity is perfect for it awesome man.

You cant run conduits under flooring. Run them under walls.
grapplehoeker Feb 10, 2017 @ 5:10am 
Originally posted by Mytheos:
Originally posted by Jet:
The flooring makes it look so much nicer. How much steel did it end up costing ya? Thats whats holding me back from choosing it instead of wood atm.

So you run the conduits through the flooring? Hmmmmm yeah I hadnt considered that since im just about to set up my power. The 3 wide flooring fire immunity is perfect for it awesome man.

You cant run conduits under flooring. Run them under walls.
You run conduits first and lay flooring over them.

@OP I don't recall how much steel it cost and wouldn't care. Steel is never ever a problem. Trade for anything your map cannot provide. Steel is everywhere though. From steel slag, to mining/deep drilling, poison/pschic ships etc. None of my defences use steel,so once all the conduits are laid there isn't much use for steel tbh.
Last edited by grapplehoeker; Feb 10, 2017 @ 5:11am
Mytheos Feb 10, 2017 @ 5:23am 
Originally posted by grapplehoeker:
Originally posted by Mytheos:

You cant run conduits under flooring. Run them under walls.
You run conduits first and lay flooring over them.

@OP I don't recall how much steel it cost and wouldn't care. Steel is never ever a problem. Trade for anything your map cannot provide. Steel is everywhere though. From steel slag, to mining/deep drilling, poison/pschic ships etc. None of my defences use steel,so once all the conduits are laid there isn't much use for steel tbh.

Walls reduce damage done if they blow and reduce chance of fire, while also not being somewhere that colonists are going to be standing on while they blow.

Is there any benefit to running them under flooring vs walls?
grapplehoeker Feb 10, 2017 @ 5:54am 
Originally posted by Mytheos:
Is there any benefit to running them under flooring vs walls?
I'll remind you of the question this topic is about,
Is flooring outside worth it?
We're discussing the use of flooring outside - meaning not within buildings but in the open air. When you run power conduits outside under the terrain, it is very useful to cover them with any flooring you wish, since they are all flame retardent. So, by covering conduits outside with a layer of flooring 3-5 cells wide, you prevent flame spreading in general, but also when for whatever reason a conduit causes a zzzt event (usually due to poor maintenance).
These also make natural pathways for your colonists to cover distances more quickly.
Last edited by grapplehoeker; Feb 10, 2017 @ 5:54am
Mytheos Feb 10, 2017 @ 6:03am 
Originally posted by grapplehoeker:
Originally posted by Mytheos:
Is there any benefit to running them under flooring vs walls?
I'll remind you of the question this topic is about,
Is flooring outside worth it?
We're discussing the use of flooring outside - meaning not within buildings but in the open air. When you run power conduits outside under the terrain, it is very useful to cover them with any flooring you wish, since they are all flame retardent. So, by covering conduits outside with a layer of flooring 3-5 cells wide, you prevent flame spreading in general, but also when for whatever reason a conduit causes a zzzt event (usually due to poor maintenance).
These also make natural pathways for your colonists to cover distances more quickly.

I am aware the topic...

I simply asked you a question about your experiences with running wires under flooring vs walls outside, thanks for the response.

You can use walls outside to cover wires as well...and many people cover their wires running to remote farming or geothermals with walls.


In any case, raiders will cut wires under a single layer wall if they can touch it, do they cut wires under flooring that you have noticed?


EDIT: Nevermind, just tested it, seems you cant run wires under flooring at all, even if you built the wire first.
Last edited by Mytheos; Feb 10, 2017 @ 8:18am
Verum Jones Feb 10, 2017 @ 6:47am 
Just use stone for flooring. Preferably slate works best for flooring but any stone will do. Granite for walls,marble for beauty, slate for floors.
Use wood for furniture especially beds. Atleast so far as ive seen with current patch i tried flooring a room with slate then with marble had the same beauty and impressive rating.
Wood flooring is a big no no it is very flammable and youll need the wood for furniture or fueled burners if you decide to use those.
I have found if you want the pawns to use the best pathway as much as possible you need to make it 3 tiles wide.For outdoors use .
Mytheos Feb 10, 2017 @ 6:55am 
Originally posted by VerumJulos:
Just use stone for flooring. Preferably slate works best for flooring but any stone will do. Granite for walls,marble for beauty, slate for floors.
Use wood for furniture especially beds. Atleast so far as ive seen with current patch i tried flooring a room with slate then with marble had the same beauty and impressive rating.
Wood flooring is a big no no it is very flammable and youll need the wood for furniture or fueled burners if you decide to use those.
I have found if you want the pawns to use the best pathway as much as possible you need to make it 3 tiles wide.For outdoors use .

You can view the stats before building flooring such as beauty.

Wood flooring is non-flammable.
Jet Feb 10, 2017 @ 8:02am 
Originally posted by grapplehoeker:
Originally posted by Mytheos:
Is there any benefit to running them under flooring vs walls?
I'll remind you of the question this topic is about,
Is flooring outside worth it?
We're discussing the use of flooring outside - meaning not within buildings but in the open air. When you run power conduits outside under the terrain, it is very useful to cover them with any flooring you wish, since they are all flame retardent. So, by covering conduits outside with a layer of flooring 3-5 cells wide, you prevent flame spreading in general, but also when for whatever reason a conduit causes a zzzt event (usually due to poor maintenance).
These also make natural pathways for your colonists to cover distances more quickly.
Does the 3 wide flooring stop not just fire but also the 'explosive' damage that comes from a zzzt event? I dont want to worry about one of my colonists getting hurt when walking outside.

Also I can lay conduits on the inside of my homes floor right now, does it matter whether you put conduits first or after flooring?
Last edited by Jet; Feb 10, 2017 @ 8:05am
Mytheos Feb 10, 2017 @ 8:20am 
Originally posted by Jet:
Originally posted by grapplehoeker:
I'll remind you of the question this topic is about,

We're discussing the use of flooring outside - meaning not within buildings but in the open air. When you run power conduits outside under the terrain, it is very useful to cover them with any flooring you wish, since they are all flame retardent. So, by covering conduits outside with a layer of flooring 3-5 cells wide, you prevent flame spreading in general, but also when for whatever reason a conduit causes a zzzt event (usually due to poor maintenance).
These also make natural pathways for your colonists to cover distances more quickly.
Does the 3 wide flooring stop not just fire but also the 'explosive' damage that comes from a zzzt event? I dont want to worry about one of my colonists getting hurt when walking outside.

Also I can lay conduits on the inside of my homes floor right now, does it matter whether you put conduits first or after flooring?


Just tested it, you cant run wires under flooring at all, even if you built the wire first and then lay flooring over it.

Tried wood, paved, sterile and stone.

I dont believe flooring does anything to reduce the damage from a zzzt, but it would stop fire from spreading if there was nothing but flooring around.

Last edited by Mytheos; Feb 10, 2017 @ 8:22am
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