Can you stay awake for ever using wake-up

[BuffyTheBuffaloSlayer]

I was wondering can you use wake-up forever. Can you OD on it or die from sleep deprivation or is it just like any other source of rest

[Kronos]

IRL it would kill you eventually. But I have no context in rimworld.

[Stormsong]

I'm not sure if it's just for addiction, but my first thought is that eventually the pawn's tolerance + failing organs as you keep smashing drugs into their system would kill them. So not forever, no.

How long then? Well, roll the dice, it's only a pawn's life I guess.

[Astasia]

Not even close. Every single time a pawn uses wake-up they give themselves a delayed heart attack which happens roughly 120 days later.

[BuffyTheBuffaloSlayer]

Originally posted by Astasia:

Not even close. Every single time a pawn uses wake-up they give themselves a delayed heart attack which happens roughly 120 days later.

So you just need a good doctor and some herbal medicine to use wake-up

[Xilo The Odd]

Originally posted by waffle of life123:

Originally posted by Astasia:

Not even close. Every single time a pawn uses wake-up they give themselves a delayed heart attack which happens roughly 120 days later.

So you just need a good doctor and some herbal medicine to use wake-up

lol jeez, guess we know how to treat our slave pawns that do nothing but work.

[Astasia]

Originally posted by waffle of life123:

So you just need a good doctor and some herbal medicine to use wake-up

Nope. The moment a heart attack shows up on a pawn it's life threatening and they could die at any moment. The chance of them dying increases for the duration it's untreated until 100% severity where it's 100% fatal. You could get lucky for a while if you keep treating the heart attacks very quickly after they show up, but eventually your pawn will die before you can do anything about it.

[Syndicake ☠]

Every time you take a drug you build up tolerance, there is a chance you get addicted once the tolerance gets high enough. You get addicted before the tolerance is visible. Some drugs build up tolerance very quickly like yayo and you can get addicted after one use.

The bad effects like chemical and brain damage or heart attacks is caused by tolerance - not addiction and tolerance goes down over time of not using the drug.

So you can use any drug once without worrying about health damage, but the chance of addiction is high except for smokeleaf / beer and wake up. You can use the social drugs every 2 days without chance of addiction. Taking any drugs every day would build up massive tolerance and cause health damage and you are likely to get addicted the second or third time you use it.

Addiction means you need a dose roughly every day or they get withdrawal effects which is not just a mood debuff.

TL;DR its very easy to get addicted, only the social drugs are really safe every 2 days. Tolerance is actually what kills or hurts your pawns and it goes down over days.

[Astasia]

That partially true, but not as important for wake-up. After you reach about 50% tolerance with wake-up you get a delayed brain damage effect, which is also about 120 days. The heart attacks will likely kill your pawn before the brain damage becomes an issue. The heart attacks are 100% chance with even the very first time a pawn ever takes wake-up. It's not related to tolerance, it's part of the "wake-up high" effect.

[BuffyTheBuffaloSlayer]

Originally posted by Syndicake ☠:

Every time you take a drug you build up tolerance, there is a chance you get addicted once the tolerance gets high enough. You get addicted before the tolerance is visible. Some drugs build up tolerance very quickly like yayo and you can get addicted after one use.

The bad effects like chemical and brain damage or heart attacks is caused by tolerance - not addiction and tolerance goes down over time of not using the drug.

So you can use any drug once without worrying about health damage, but the chance of addiction is high except for smokeleaf / beer and wake up. You can use the social drugs every 2 days without chance of addiction. Taking any drugs every day would build up massive tolerance and cause health damage and you are likely to get addicted the second or third time you use it.

Addiction means you need a dose roughly every day or they get withdrawal effects which is not just a mood debuff.

TL;DR its very easy to get addicted, only the social drugs are really safe every 2 days. Tolerance is actually what kills or hurts your pawns and it goes down over days.

How often should I use wake up then because its the most useful drug and I need to let my pawns use it

[BuffyTheBuffaloSlayer]

Originally posted by Astasia:

That partially true, but not as important for wake-up. After you reach about 50% tolerance with wake-up you get a delayed brain damage effect, which is also about 120 days. The heart attacks will likely kill your pawn before the brain damage becomes an issue. The heart attacks are 100% chance with even the very first time a pawn ever takes wake-up. It's not related to tolerance, it's part of the "wake-up high" effect.

Are there any safer drugs that boost tiredness/workspeed

[Astasia]

Ambrosia is the only safe drug in the game, and it's just a minor mood boost IIRC. Everything else will kill your pawns eventually. Luciferium is the only one worth using and only if you have a large supply. Drugs aren't for using, they are for selling, and to add annoyances to the game when you get an addict that joins your colony. Use bionics to boost workspeed, or get mods.

[AlexMBrennan]

How often should I use wake up then because its the most useful drug and I need to let my pawns use it

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