is this really a new game?

[Bryan]

at first i thought the game looked cool, but holy its too similar to payday, don't get me wrong i am not the kind of guy who calls every shooter the same, taking inspiration from other games is totally fine.

but these trailers make the game looks like a exact copy paste of payday.

[lmahl]

It's a classical cops and robber game. You steal things for money and fight the cops while doing so, how much variation are you expecting? Payday didn't do anything new to the formula, they just made it entertaining, which is what this game does as well.

The game does have enough of it's own flair and style to give it a identity separate from Payday, as well as it's own set of game mechanics. Some of which I enjoy and some of which I dislike. It's not copying Payday it's competing with it. There have been people saying this is what Payday 3 should of been when it came out, and I personally agree with them.

[Lardo]

It's a more casual PD2, not copy/paste at all.

[Bryan]

alright, thanks for the info.

i will give the game a shot with a friend then, if we don't like it within the first hour and a half we are just gonna refund it.

[Brigs]

this game is what payday 2 use to be. i played payday 2 recently and it feels nothing like it use to. it use to be a game about robbing banks now its a wave/horde game with the crazy number of swat spawning at all times.

[xKGz]

I would absolutely not consider these the same game and if you like the genre, I think it's worth having both. The roguelike campaign (single player only though) in this is really fun and extremely different than anything in PD, it pretty much makes the heists themselves mini games while you use the money from those heists to take out rival gangs and steal their territories.

It feels a lot more arcade style where as, at least after playing this, payday feels more simulation (think like Forza vs Assetto Corsa or F1 sim).

You're not completely screwed if you wanted to stealth but the heist goes loud which makes it more fun if you're playing with people that don't really like stealth or want the pressure of ruining the heist.

It has a much different progression system and no skill trees. There are bonus' that you can unlock and apply but it's like increasing damage, health recovery speed or more time to be detected but much different than skills you get in PD.

You can subdue as many guards as you want (no pagers) but you can only kill a two before the heist goes loud.

All in all, I think PD is a better mechanically (even PD3 feels a bit more polished than this though the core of this is still good) but I think this can be more fun especially if you're playing with people that don't love stealth in PD.

[Kingslayer]

roughly the same. you rob bank, break into shop, drill into safe , drop you loot into the van and etc....

but you can unlock bosses, team mates, guns by playing the game.

the single player mode is totally different.

you try it, you can refund if you dont like it.

[Doktor Vic Tim]

As someone with thousands of hours in Payday 2, I'll say that it is indeed similar, but it has a few differences that make it stand out.

- Stealth is MUCH easier to the point it's dumbed down if you know what to do. PAgers do not exist as long as you SUBDUE guards. Killing guards and breaking cameras get you a strike, however. 3rd Strika and it's loud.

- Loud is more reminiscent of PD:TH (from what I've heard, have yet to play it) with cops being more intense during pushes and it's wise for th eplayer to push forward when the cops retreat. The more loud missions you do in one day, the higher level the cops start at depending o your heat level.

- Bots are SIGNIFICANTLY more competent that Payday 2 bots. They're less tanky, but they can can secure loot for you and they do their best subduing civilians and guards. But they're not perfect, of course. But remember when yo usolo stealth in Payday 2 and you spend an eternity securing bag one by one? Throw them to you bots and they'll secure them for you. Heck, you can even instruct them to help loot the place as well.

- You can carry two bags, but you're limited to only using secondary. One character can carry 3 bags, and there's an equipment that lets you carry+1 bag for a while when it's active.

- Instead of drill/saws jamming all the damn time, you can speed them up instead. However, timing it wrong will overheat it, and that's all your fault.

- Game's mainly roguelite, and while it has some similarities to PAyday, it can be a nice alternative if you're looking for a different Payday heist feel with friends.

But that's just my opinion.