Reason for review shift?

[Floymin]

Did the dev somehow get a new high-capacity server for Payday MP? Is that why reviews have gone from Mostly Negative to Mostly Positive?
Is the single player campaign still considered low-budget acting?

[Flavio93Zena]

Game was released on Epic in a not-so-good state, much like you could say about Payday 2 for example. Over the last year, they went absolutely berserk on everything that was pointed out and fixed so many things they're genuinely too many to count.
They listened to community, including support for modders (the same guys from PD2 moved over) to make great content for the game. They're *very* active on Discord, heck, sometimes even the CEO himself chips in, he's super cool.
The business model quite often gets them to release new DLCs for free for a limited time before they become paid.
Singleplayer is awesome and the actors are awesome, minus Chuck Norris (even being a huge fanboy he really dropped the ball on this one). Do remember it's memetastic, the whole idea behind the game is to be a great shooter/stealth/roguelite but ALSO to be *FUN*.
Old reviews no longer apply, there are indeed many very good reasons for the score to be what it is. It's straight up much better than PD3 in 90%+ aspects, although it can't obviously be compared to 10 years of content on PD2 (which I played for nearly 1k hours).
Really, get the game, every single person who followed this advice thanked me later so far :D

[Floymin]

Originally posted by Flavio93Zena:

Game was released on Epic in a not-so-good state, much like you could say about Payday 2 for example. Over the last year, they went absolutely berserk on everything that was pointed out and fixed so many things they're genuinely too many to count.
They listened to community, including support for modders (the same guys from PD2 moved over) to make great content for the game. They're *very* active on Discord, heck, sometimes even the CEO himself chips in, he's super cool.
The business model quite often gets them to release new DLCs for free for a limited time before they become paid.
Singleplayer is awesome and the actors are awesome, minus Chuck Norris (even being a huge fanboy he really dropped the ball on this one). Do remember it's memetastic, the whole idea behind the game is to be a great shooter/stealth/roguelite but ALSO to be *FUN*.
Old reviews no longer apply, there are indeed many very good reasons for the score to be what it is. It's straight up much better than PD3 in 90%+ aspects, although it can't obviously be compared to 10 years of content on PD2 (which I played for nearly 1k hours).
Really, get the game, every single person who followed this advice thanked me later so far :D

I read a review on WorthPlaying. He says that the SP campaign was cut so much that it has gone from a tries-too-hard schlock-fest to basically a MP tutorial, like the most recent Star Wars Battlefront. Can you still recommend the game for SP casuals like myself?

[NLxAROSA]

Originally posted by Floymin:

I read a review on WorthPlaying. He says that the SP campaign was cut so much that it has gone from a tries-too-hard schlock-fest to basically a MP tutorial, like the most recent Star Wars Battlefront. Can you still recommend the game for SP casuals like myself?

This is simply untrue: it's actually the other way around. SP campaign is a way more story oriented and coherent experience than MP. MP is basically individual jobs/heists or playlists.

470 hours since launch on EGS here, 99% SP. I would not have done that if it were just a list of missions.

The experience is roguelite with a few persistent upgrades, and the campaign/jobs are procedural + RNG + crafted, so it stays fresh and interesting over time.

Some content was cut to make it easier for beginners, but to compensate A LOT of content was added. Until the 11th you get all existing DLC for free too on the already low price.

It's not like Battlefront or other MP games with a sorry excuse for a SP campaign at all.

[Flavio93Zena]

Originally posted by Floymin:

I read a review on WorthPlaying. He says that the SP campaign was cut so much that it has gone from a tries-too-hard schlock-fest to basically a MP tutorial, like the most recent Star Wars Battlefront. Can you still recommend the game for SP casuals like myself?

What NLxAROSA above me said, and he's played SP more than myself :) SP is awesome, and so is MP (even though it does have occasional desync issues that they're working on), given there is no PvP it's generally not toxic at all and pretty fun to play even with randoms.