Later Game Warehouse Issues

[bun E]

The "Pilfer a high security warehouse" map, which I've only seen in campaign and like a week in, is a weird outlier where no matter when you see it or what heat you're at, the place has at least 10 guards in view at any angle you look at the place, probably like 30-40 guards total on the map, and a camera absolutely everywhere with no clear path to the cam rooms or shortcut.

This is by far the worst cameras and guards spawns on any map especially for such a small area, and bricks always eventually bug out and make them shoot so going stealth on this map pretty much isn't possible? If it is I've never seen it be done, but the game gives the "Don't raise the alarm" sub objective which is confusing. I seriously don't think its supposed to be this swarmed with cams and guards as its leagues harder than Compound (even the harder night map with swat) that gives tons more money,

Either way I've opted going for doing it loud when I see it in my campaign, which is also just a purely miserable experience. The bots won't move loot anywhere due to their technically not being a "bag secure zone" because its only at the helicopter briefly after you call it, so you have to, by yourself, move 12+ bags to places that can be quite far during loud combat, and to make matters worse if you swap to the bots and throw their bags on the ground, they'll just pick them right back up again.

I recently did one where the secure point is 4 floors up on building construction, which took like two minutes per trip. There was a zip line for bags, but because its placed at the end of a ledge and bags are physical objects, if you throw more than 3 up there the rest just fall off the roof (lol). It was like 50 minutes of just bag moving on whats supposed to be a short heist, which 3 other bots that did nothing but carry the same two bags forever until they were shot then throw them off the building :(

I doubt its supposed to be this bad in loud or stealth, but man this is by far the worst mission in campaign, and it doesn't even pay anything special. This is the only mission I'm actually avoiding at all right now.

[Lardo]

Yeah, this is one of the newer ones and it needs work. Currently barely worth doing, indeed.

[Bolsa]

i skip it when it comes out, too much time

[nosrepatsuj]

i stealthed it not sure if its only in the multiplayer version but there is a junction box by the main gates that will open them and bring in the van didn't try it in the campaign version as i was already at 2 out of 3 strikes with piles of zip tied guards. When i did it in the multiplayer version it alerted guards as the van all but ran them over.

[Lardo]

Originally posted by nosrepatsuj:

i stealthed it not sure if its only in the multiplayer version but there is a junction box by the main gates that will open them and bring in the van didn't try it in the campaign version as i was already at 2 out of 3 strikes with piles of zip tied guards. When i did it in the multiplayer version it alerted guards as the van all but ran them over.

The van is fine, it's the helicopter that's the problem.

[bun E]

Originally posted by nosrepatsuj:

i stealthed it not sure if its only in the multiplayer version but there is a junction box by the main gates that will open them and bring in the van didn't try it in the campaign version as i was already at 2 out of 3 strikes with piles of zip tied guards. When i did it in the multiplayer version it alerted guards as the van all but ran them over.

You're thinking of compound, which is fine. Different heist tho

[Flavio93Zena]

High-sec warehouse is actually meant to be extremely difficult to stealth, by design. I know who made this map and I asked him the same exact question, it is fully intended and it can be stealthed, it's just *extremely* difficult to do, as you definitely noticed :D

[Red Rum Lover]

I stealth these just fine. If you don't have someone with ghost it is challenging. Take your time, figure out the patrol patterns then put the camp to sleep. Happy Heisting.

[bun E]

Originally posted by Flavio93Zena:

High-sec warehouse is actually meant to be extremely difficult to stealth, by design. I know who made this map and I asked him the same exact question, it is fully intended and it can be stealthed, it's just *extremely* difficult to do, as you definitely noticed :D

I really doubt that, I'd like to see a video of someone actually completing it on current patch in full stealth, because something isn't adding up.

It would be possible if bricks worked without causing alarms, and you could just bait them infinitely (I did this several times for ~10 guards before the bricks caused broken alerted guards to see thru walls), but they don't work and dominating the guards inside the compound isn't really an option due to both there being no safe places to escort them to, the cameras, and the other massive amounts of guards patrolling them.

Even if bricks worked it would be encouraging the most boring style of play, and it pays less than compound or bank heists, I don't get it.

Either way, if the bots actually secured loot and the ziplines worked on this heist it wouldn't be so bad, but as of now this is a seriously bad mission, I think the only truly horrible to play one in the game

[Flavio93Zena]

The person right before you (Red Rum Lover) answered that already. Some people do like the stealth challenge and that map was made for them :)

[Padds]

my fave one of these i saw a cheeky way to just take out about 6 guards and clear a path , id have to be careful of one on the roof but np.
spend ages stealthing around the warehouse getting the gear together. go back open the gate.
the feckin van drives into the warehouse at full speed and parks between three guards and ontop of a 4th.

[BeerDone]

It's not that hard, honestly. You have to pick a path, there is usually one that's less covered than the rest. As mentioned previously, you CAN use a junction box and open the gate, if it's a van escape. If it's a helicopter escape - you want to clear about 35-40 meters around the escape point, guards beyond that range will not notice you.

I predominantly stealth these. Patrols are consistent, so it's just a matter of patience. If luck looks my way, the direct ahead path actually ends up the cleanest, and you CAN be deceived into skulking around more than you should if you don't notice that.

All things considered, for the rating and progress at which such warehouses show up - I'm not bothered. Any character with a Ghost perk can handle them in time, and I appreciate having to work on my approach. If it's too much trouble - just hit a bank or a jewelry store, they usually offer better returns anyway.

I agree that bag drop-offs should be better structured for the bots. On Gold Cup, bots can leave bags next to the truck location until the truck actually arrives. This should be done for the helicopter points.

Comparing it to Compound... why? Compound is downright rote and boring. Most jobs are harder to stealth than Compound.

[Akameka]

Thoses high security warehouses are clearable in stealth, not easily though. Brick isn't your only stealth option, the silent stun grenade (gaz) can help get rid of several guards at the same time. The camera jammer can help get rid of guards camping in front of camera, and that might give you a direct access to the camera room. In a pinch if you have to shoot (silenced), killing 2-3 guards really fast will only trigger one single strike, so you can use that too if needed.

[bun E]

Send a video of completing it if you've done it, with the advice given I'm honestly not sure you guys are playing the same mission, and I'd love to see someone doing it in video.

I'm also pretty sure the killing 3 guards fast counting as one strike only works on lower difficulties, which also don't include the same amount of guard spawns and spam.

[Akameka]

Originally posted by Bunni:

Send a video of completing it if you've done it, with the advice given I'm honestly not sure you guys are playing the same mission, and I'd love to see someone doing it in video.

I'm also pretty sure the killing 3 guards fast counting as one strike only works on lower difficulties, which also don't include the same amount of guard spawns and spam.

Sry I don't record my game on the daily basis. If you don't believe us that's fine either way, not that I really care. I've done it sucessfully in stealth 2 times, so it's possible. I would be complaining too if that was impossible, but that's not the case.

As far as I understand, You're talking about the normal warehouse roberry, except there are fences all around and between 20-40 guards all around + cameras, then you have to call a choper to drop the bags either right in the warehouse area (completely dumb IMO) or on a construction place nearby.

--> take a moment to analyse the place, see if there is an easier way in, then stick to the borders as much as you can, so you don't get anyone in your back, only get rid of guards if you are sure they are alone and can move them quickly to somewhere no one will come check (or use brick to attract them, but that come at the risk they bug out or someone else come to check), focus on getting a way toward camera room. Once they are disable, it becomes way easier, as you can more actively get rid of the guards.

Honestly it's like a Jenga game where you rack up your brain on how and where to take out the pieces. Same thing with the "destroy the cars" mission. I am not claiming that I have a 100% success rate on thoses, but it's doable.

I'm also pretty sure the killing 3 guards fast counting as one strike only works on lower difficulties, which also don't include the same amount of guard spawns and spam.

I am playing in extreme. And it works - i've done it on the cops loading the armored truck to stealth the mission. Altough you have to be really fast (like you have a second or so, not much more, so you usually want to target closelly packed guards)

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EDIT : Done. here : https://youtu.be/Nlavh-CUoxg (lol from 13:16 to 14:00 = panic&stress.exe ^.^" )

Given that wasn't the hardest I've got. altough I only have ghost 1 and no swiftness perks that could have helped.

Also, I doubt it's possible to get 3 stars in stealth if you have the time limit for secondary objective. but I am glad if someone can prove me wrong.

[Lardo]

Originally posted by Flavio93Zena:

The person right before you (Red Rum Lover) answered that already. Some people do like the stealth challenge and that map was made for them :)

The challenge is not the issue, it's the length. Is climbing a 4-storey building to put 2 bags challenging? Is waiting for several helicopters challenging? Is picking up bags that fell from said building challenging? I don't think so.