[FFXIII-2] Improving Performance & Framerate Issues Thread

[dingdong]

Welcome to the FFXIII-2: Improving Performance & Framerate Issues Thread

This topic will be dedicated to improving FFXIII-2 in any way possible.
Keep in mind the settings below will NOT fix all your issues, it only tries to improves them.

General

Before anything else, be sure your computer or laptop has the needed specs to run the game.
Having pograms running on the background like "Skype" or "Google Chrome" could effect gameplay, it is recomended to close any programs that might be running in the background.
You might experience other issues/glitches, a good source of finding out if this has been fixed can be found on: https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XIII-2

FFXIII-2 Launcher:

Screen Settings: Keep in mind, playing in "Windowed Mode" cause less framerate drop.
Resolution: The lower you set this, the less framerate drop you'll get.
Sound Settings: ...
Shadow resolution: It's highly recomended you set this to "1024 x 1024".
Anti-aliasing (MSAA): Set this option to "x2".

nVIDIA:

Firstly, open the nVIDIA Control Panel, go to "Manage 3D settings" click on the tab "Program Settings" and press "Add", you should see the program FINAL FANTASY XIII-2, if not click on "Browse" and goto:

- C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\FINAL FANTASY XIII-2\alba_data\prog\win\bin

Recommended Settings (1):

Feature:	Setting:
Ambient Occlusion	Not supported for this application
Anisotropic Filtern	16x
Antialiasing - FXAA	Off
Antialiasing - Mode	Override any application setting
Antialiasing - Setting	8x CSAA
Antialiasing - Transparency	Off
CUDA - GPUs	All
Maximum pre-rendered frames	1
Multi-display/mixed-GPU acceleration	Single display performance mode
Power management mode	Prefer maximum performance
Shader Cache	On
Texture filtering - Anisotropic sample optimization	Off
Texture filtering - Nagative LOD bias	Clamp
Texture filtering - Quality	Quality
Texture filtering - Trilinear optimization	On
Threaded Optimization	On
Triple buffer	On
Vertical sync	On
VR pre-rendered frames	Let application decide

Recommended Settings (2):

Feature:	Setting:
Ambient Occlusion	Not supported for this application
Anisotropic Filtern	Application-controlled
Antialiasing - FXAA	Off
Antialiasing - Mode	Application-controlled
Antialiasing - Setting	Application-controlled
Antialiasing - Transparency	Off
CUDA - GPUs	All
Maximum pre-rendered frames	Use the 3D application setting
Multi-display/mixed-GPU acceleration	Multiple display performance mode
Power management mode	Adaptive
Shader Cache	On
Texture filtering - Anisotropic sample optimization	Off
Texture filtering - Nagative LOD bias	Allow
Texture filtering - Quality	Quality
Texture filtering - Trilinear optimization	On
Threaded Optimization	Auto
Triple buffer	Off
Vertical sync	Use the 3D application setting
VR pre-rendered frames	1

The recommended settings for Antialiasing do nothing by default.
This is because the support for it trough the Control Panal hasnt been added.
Even so, if in the future it will be added to FFXIII-2 the settings you gave are there.

AMD:

Because i dont own an AMD card, i can only give a plain explaination about this,
If you know more or have more experience about this, please put it in the comments.

Firstly open the "Catalyst Control Panel", if there's a way to add propfiles, add this:
- C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\FINAL FANTASY XIII-2\alba_data\prog\win\bin

Recommended Settings:

Feature:	Setting:
Anisotropic Filtering	16x
Maximum pre-rendered frames	1
Triple Buffering	On
Vertical Sync	On

Crash fixes:

Resolving certain game crashing issues for win10 users: https://steamcommunity.com/app/292140/discussions/0/1694914736005515453/

Fixing crashing while saving: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1221218362

Final toughts:

Lets just hope FFXIII-3 wont be even worse than this.

[Atephious]

Originally posted by Kebess:

*The Shadow settings of the Launcher has close to no effect on performance gain. Setting it to 512² or 4096² won't cause any noticeable improvement, so you should not call that a part of the solution.
This goes with what you said about Skype and Google chrome or other other application. As long as you have enough Ram/CPU/GPU capacity, there's no reason closing applications would improve performance.
This only helps if your system is already capping in those areas, which isn't the case of the average PC nowadays (unless you have less than some 3g-Ram/512m-Vram/1.5 Ghz).

forgive me for re-opening this post/topic

i can tell you that in my experiance that setting the shadder anything above 1024 i drop dramaticly in fps. at 1024 i get 30 fps average at 4096 i get close to nothing averaging around 5 fps. because this is concidered shadow quality which not all cards have great time rendering high quality shadows. so in most games i turn off shadows completly and get the best results in fps. take SWOTOR for example i have them off and get 40fps but turn them on low and i go down to 14fps average. so your comment here about the shadow quality, and maybe this im missunderstaning on how you worded it, but this is wrong.

along with the next part. anytime you have more than 1 program running your computer will see a performance drop. wether its substantial or not. this is because every program running is using memory and cpu prossesing to run even in the background. the fewer cores you have the fewer processes you can run with minimal performance drop.

and by the way you have been posting and the way you speak to others, im guessing you have a rather high end rig, so in this you dont need a perf boost, and only came here to troll. also not everyone can afford a good rig so we tend to find small things matter, such as the background prossesses, the small areas that we can improve the quality of the game while suffering the least amount of performance loss. also alot of these setting DEPEND on the INDIVIDUALS specs so they get a gist of things and play around till they find somehting that works for them.

Thanks OP for the post it helped me out a little bit. though i did have to agust my setttings slightly to get better performance. it helped.

[dingdong]

Originally posted by Atephious:

Originally posted by Kebess:

*The Shadow settings of the Launcher has close to no effect on performance gain. Setting it to 512² or 4096² won't cause any noticeable improvement, so you should not call that a part of the solution.
This goes with what you said about Skype and Google chrome or other other application. As long as you have enough Ram/CPU/GPU capacity, there's no reason closing applications would improve performance.
This only helps if your system is already capping in those areas, which isn't the case of the average PC nowadays (unless you have less than some 3g-Ram/512m-Vram/1.5 Ghz).

forgive me for re-opening this post/topic

i can tell you that in my experiance that setting the shadder anything above 1024 i drop dramaticly in fps. at 1024 i get 30 fps average at 4096 i get close to nothing averaging around 5 fps. because this is concidered shadow quality which not all cards have great time rendering high quality shadows. so in most games i turn off shadows completly and get the best results in fps. take SWOTOR for example i have them off and get 40fps but turn them on low and i go down to 14fps average. so your comment here about the shadow quality, and maybe this im missunderstaning on how you worded it, but this is wrong.

along with the next part. anytime you have more than 1 program running your computer will see a performance drop. wether its substantial or not. this is because every program running is using memory and cpu prossesing to run even in the background. the fewer cores you have the fewer processes you can run with minimal performance drop.

and by the way you have been posting and the way you speak to others, im guessing you have a rather high end rig, so in this you dont need a perf boost, and only came here to troll. also not everyone can afford a good rig so we tend to find small things matter, such as the background prossesses, the small areas that we can improve the quality of the game while suffering the least amount of performance loss. also alot of these setting DEPEND on the INDIVIDUALS specs so they get a gist of things and play around till they find somehting that works for them.

Thanks OP for the post it helped me out a little bit. though i did have to agust my setttings slightly to get better performance. it helped.

In the end its just a topic to give people a headstart on settings that might make it run better.
Aslong as it helped in any way im happy.

[xXMasterJ360Xx]

Bottom line is you need a powerful GPU to handle max settings. So if your just barely able to play anything don't bother with texture settings. I have a 980ti 6gb card and using max settings hasn't ' given me a single frame drop or lag compared to when I was using a 3gb GPU. Thats how the PC world works If you want sexy/beautiful textures and enhanced field depth you'll need good amount of VRAM memory to use them

[dingdong]

Originally posted by xXMasterJ360Xx:

Bottom line is you need a powerful GPU to handle max settings. So if your just barely able to play anything don't bother with texture settings. I have a 980ti 6gb card and using max settings hasn't ' given me a single frame drop or lag compared to when I was using a 3gb GPU. Thats how the PC world works If you want sexy/beautiful textures and enhanced field depth you'll need good amount of VRAM memory to use them

I read always these types of posts, makes me happy that i never bothered going FULL MAX and being happy to settle with decent medium graphics.

[Atephious]

ive personally never owned an awesome rig. though i have played on them. and to be honest, those extra settings like motion blur and feild of depth sometimes makes some games look worse. so even if i had a good rig id still settle for "medium" and be happy. maybe its because ive become atuned to the lower graphics. but i do like the textures and the shadows to be high res. and even with my gt 525m i can still, though barely, get high textures but low shadows, even on newer games like Battefield 4, which i dont come close to meeting the min specs, i have it on medium with the right settings just to get it looking good and run with 25-30 fps. this goes back to the "playing around with the settings to see what you can get" and "it depends on each persons preferances and their rig".

[Jallappy]

Originally posted by Kebess:

Originally posted by TR2Rise:

It's commendable that you're trying to help out the OP point out his/her mistakes, but surely you have a less antagonistic way of going about it since the threads so "young" anyway?... There's plenty of room for more people to make suggestions as we go along.

Yes, I agree I'm quite a bit direct and blunt here, and it's on purpose. Initially, OP actually called the thread "[FIX] Improving Performance & Framrate Issues" as to say s/he was offering all the solutions.
I find that title alone very bold and arrogant as it would be surprising to see anyone with an actually solution to the FPS vs Graphic Quality problems some are encountering right now in the game. I still gave the OP the benefit of the doubt and gave the thread a shot (despite that spelling error in the title itself..)

I got amused and almost offended by the amount of unhelpful advice contained in such a short text, and I have to admit I'm particularly unappreciative of false claims, or misleading title to get attention or for similar lame reasons, especially when it promotes wrong ideas and bad advice.

So yeah, I really didn't feel like going gently about pointing out what I thought about it. Why should I? That only encourages this sort of silly threads.

I know this is an old post but I want to point out that you criticize her/his grammar while making mistakes yourself... If you're going to be an insufferable grammar Nazi, then at least make sure that your own house is in order first...

[TyanmirRise]

Originally posted by Jallappy:

Originally posted by Kebess:

Yes, I agree I'm quite a bit direct and blunt here, and it's on purpose. Initially, OP actually called the thread "[FIX] Improving Performance & Framrate Issues" as to say s/he was offering all the solutions.
I find that title alone very bold and arrogant as it would be surprising to see anyone with an actually solution to the FPS vs Graphic Quality problems some are encountering right now in the game. I still gave the OP the benefit of the doubt and gave the thread a shot (despite that spelling error in the title itself..)

I got amused and almost offended by the amount of unhelpful advice contained in such a short text, and I have to admit I'm particularly unappreciative of false claims, or misleading title to get attention or for similar lame reasons, especially when it promotes wrong ideas and bad advice.

So yeah, I really didn't feel like going gently about pointing out what I thought about it. Why should I? That only encourages this sort of silly threads.

I know this is an old post but I want to point out that you criticize her/his grammar while making mistakes yourself... If you're going to be an insufferable grammar Nazi, then at least make sure that your own house is in order first...

You must mean the lack of a comma in the word "threads"... Anyway, for clarification's sake; I do remember making that post when the thread was pretty young as stated sometime last year. 'Kebess' actually took the time to articulate exactly WHY he/she had some misgivings with the general content of the entire thread back then. Thus, as you've probably already seen I did not belabor the issue any further as the reply as given to me was valid as a differing opinion.

Regarding my being a "Grammar Nazi"... My focus was not so much on the use of proper grammar but the need for suggestions to be aired out then attempted. As such I'd become more concerned at the implied antagonism that I believed was coming through before receiving a decent reply.

[Jallappy]

I wasn't directing my comment at you. I was talking to Kibess. I do understand why he would harshly point out the flaws in the original post but when he resorted to being a grammar nazi while simultaneously making pretty noticeable mistakes himself (more noticeable than comma mistakes imo), he made himself a hypocritical grammar nazi (as if a grammar nazi wasn't bad enough). The only reason I pointed out his grammatical mistakes was to point out that he was a hypocrite. Personally I believe that if I can understand what you're saying then perfect grammar is not needed. We're not writing a thesis here.

[TyanmirRise]

Originally posted by Jallappy:

I wasn't directing my comment at you. I was talking to Kibess. I do understand why he would harshly point out the flaws in the original post but when he resorted to being a grammar nazi while simultaneously making pretty noticeable mistakes himself (more noticeable than comma mistakes imo), he made himself a hypocritical grammar nazi (as if a grammar nazi wasn't bad enough). The only reason I pointed out his grammatical mistakes was to point out that he was a hypocrite. Personally I believe that if I can understand what you're saying then perfect grammar is not needed. We're not writing a thesis here.

Oh! OK... Thanks. That's definitely reasonable enough.

[Chelios]

Originally posted by Kebess:

Hehe, I AM a grammar nazi. Guilty as charged. I was "mean" because what she was saying was wrong, and she seemed to be dishonest about what she was actually offering with this thread. I wasn't mean just because of the bad grammar.
That'd be cruel. I'm not cruel, just mean, ;)

Your grammar was absolutely awful in your posts on the first page. I'm pretty sure one can't be considered a 'grammar nazi' with ♥♥♥♥♥♥ grammar themselves. I know this post is extremely old and you probably won't see this, but I was too disgusted to not opine. Hopefully you and that prizm idiot have since disappeared.

[dingdong]

Can we please stop the arguementing, please just discuss the topic itself.

[Kargath]

Originally posted by xXMasterJ360Xx:

Bottom line is you need a powerful GPU to handle max settings.

That's not the bottom line because the problems people have with this game are unrelated to hardware power. I have a TITAN X and the game runs at 30 to 50 FPS. According to my UPS it uses only a third of my PC's power. The Final Fantasy XIII games do some terrible internal frame rate manipulation that only the developers can fix, unless you want to take your chances with the community hacks.

[HitBalls]

Swaggles, thank you for the tips for Window Mode, yeah IT HELPS!! Thank you!!
the stupid fps drop during battle is no longer a issue, no more GeDoSaTo turn off HUD ♥♥♥♥, coz i can't even see if HUD is off...
Now battles are no longer lag for me, oh yeah.

BTW, this game is no designed to play in any other frame-rate other than 30fps, i got a pretty high-end rig, i got 60fps for the first 5min, or just the current area, but no matter what I do in 5min, it will automatically drop my frame-rate down to 30 and the game locks it there...and not to mention in town... I wanna kill the person who did that to the game. Anyway, i eventually give up 60fps and face the fact that the game is supposed to play in 30fps coz it is NOT A PC GAME, it is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ console simulator so call PC PORT...

But if u set it right, the game actually runs acceptable in 30fps, it looks smooth as ♥♥♥♥ for 30, it feels like at least 40~50 fps even though it is actually 30... I guess that is the good thing about console game they tweak and design 30fps the smoothest way possible. It is not too bad to play this game in smooth 30fps. I now ok with it.

[dingdong]

Originally posted by HitBalls:

Swaggles, thank you for the tips for Window Mode, yeah IT HELPS!! Thank you!!
the stupid fps drop during battle is no longer a issue, no more GeDoSaTo turn off HUD ♥♥♥♥, coz i can't even see if HUD is off...
Now battles are no longer lag for me, oh yeah.

BTW, this game is no designed to play in any other frame-rate other than 30fps, i got a pretty high-end rig, i got 60fps for the first 5min, or just the current area, but no matter what I do in 5min, it will automatically drop my frame-rate down to 30 and the game locks it there...and not to mention in town... I wanna kill the person who did that to the game. Anyway, i eventually give up 60fps and face the fact that the game is supposed to play in 30fps coz it is NOT A PC GAME, it is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ console simulator so call PC PORT...

But if u set it right, the game actually runs acceptable in 30fps, it looks smooth as ♥♥♥♥ for 30, it feels like at least 40~50 fps even though it is actually 30... I guess that is the good thing about console game they tweak and design 30fps the smoothest way possible. It is not too bad to play this game in smooth 30fps. I now ok with it.

Glad it helped.

[Morgoth (C.Diff)]

I have found that for AMD GPUs you can create custom resolutions using the crimson driver and reduce your refresh rate to 30hz - this made the game much more playable with less crazy framerate drops -

It is more prone to freezing when i do this - but this could just be my system causing it.


I have not found a method to limit frames to 30 and not cause the game to crash more often using an amd system