FINAL FANTASY XIII-2

FINAL FANTASY XIII-2

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allanvv Dec 14, 2014 @ 2:04am
1080p is not an upscale
The game is blurry, but 1080p is obviously not an upscale. It fixes a lot of aliasing.

http://i.imgur.com/Z7RHvCV.jpg

Here's some good screenshots (4K downsampled): https://www.flickr.com/photos/javiercc/sets/72157649724807135/
Last edited by allanvv; Dec 14, 2014 @ 2:09am
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Ryrin Dec 14, 2014 @ 2:10am 
This was my conclusion as well.
Alex Lynd Dec 14, 2014 @ 2:19am 
If that's upscaled it's the best upscaler in the world and Microsoft should buy that for their console.
The Architect Dec 14, 2014 @ 4:17am 
Originally posted by allanvv:
The game is blurry, but 1080p is obviously not an upscale. It fixes a lot of aliasing.
The blur is caused by Depth of Field and MSAA which is an AA that blurs the image of any game, DoF can't be disabled whcih is unfortunate.

DoF messes especially with the hair making it look terrible and AA won't help that much in some scenarios based on the camera position and the amount of DoF there is.
Charlie Dec 14, 2014 @ 1:58pm 
Wow oO I hope it's not the truth. This game is so blurry !
ZombieHunter Dec 14, 2014 @ 2:06pm 
I almost always turn off DOF b/c it is not natural. It is a camera effect and nothing more. At some point games ventured into the realm of photographic effects as opposed to what human vision actually perceives. DOF is awful on every game. Why would I have a video card that can render huge distances only to blur out everything in the distance? DOF attemps to get your eye to focus on the foreground or what is important. But in games it just doesn't work unless it is a cutscene. In a game my eyes want to see everything and when things are blurred in the distance it really doesn't look natural b/c that isn't how I perceive things in the distance in real life.

MSAA is also terrible but it is better than FXAA which blurs everything. Until we get 4K and higher res to be standard, edges and jaggies will always be a problem. FSAA or SSAA is superior but it takes a lot of power and isn't compatible with various rendering techniques.
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BurntBacon Dec 14, 2014 @ 2:15pm 
DoF needs to always have an option to turn off, it never looks good.
bloodraven43 Dec 14, 2014 @ 2:20pm 
Originally posted by allanvv:
The game is blurry, but 1080p is obviously not an upscale. It fixes a lot of aliasing.

http://i.imgur.com/Z7RHvCV.jpg

Here's some good screenshots (4K downsampled): https://www.flickr.com/photos/javiercc/sets/72157649724807135/

i agree...if you can run it in 4k...it looks freaking amazing
Killance Dec 14, 2014 @ 2:27pm 
It's not even suppose to go past 720p actually since this is the 360 prot, not the PS3 prot.

Trying to make it look better is near impossible since there aren't any graphics higher than 720p for FF13-2 and 13.
Bha Dec 14, 2014 @ 2:29pm 
Wish you could disable that DoF, sometimes it blurs the whole screen way too much.
bloodraven43 Dec 14, 2014 @ 2:30pm 
Originally posted by Killance:
It's not even suppose to go past 720p actually since this is the 360 prot, not the PS3 prot.

Trying to make it look better is near impossible since there aren't any graphics higher than 720p for FF13-2 and 13.

wrong...a 4k upscale looks incredible...i know caause im playing in that res
dandan Dec 14, 2014 @ 2:31pm 
Originally posted by Killance:
It's not even suppose to go past 720p actually since this is the 360 prot, not the PS3 prot.

Trying to make it look better is near impossible since there aren't any graphics higher than 720p for FF13-2 and 13.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about
Killance Dec 14, 2014 @ 2:36pm 
Originally posted by naemorine:
Originally posted by Killance:
It's not even suppose to go past 720p actually since this is the 360 prot, not the PS3 prot.

Trying to make it look better is near impossible since there aren't any graphics higher than 720p for FF13-2 and 13.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about

I do since this is a pure console ported to PC.
Ryrin Dec 14, 2014 @ 2:42pm 
Originally posted by Killance:
Originally posted by naemorine:

You clearly don't know what you're talking about

I do since this is a pure console ported to PC.
No you don't.

It does indeed render at higher resolutions just fine. And it has exactly the effect higher resolutions always have. It makes it look less blurry and more defined (aside from DOF issue causing blur).

It's not a "pure console ported to PC". It has resolution options and those resolution options work. If it was a direct port, it'd be locked at 720p, but it isn't.
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ZombieHunter Dec 14, 2014 @ 2:42pm 
It is true you cannot create resolution where there is none. This isn't CSI where they can enlarge a photo to magically have more detail than it ever did. So forcing 4K when it isn't true 4K is purely an optical illusion but if it does render at 4K then it will look amazing.
Last edited by ZombieHunter; Dec 14, 2014 @ 2:43pm
Ryrin Dec 14, 2014 @ 2:45pm 
Originally posted by falcon_x:
It is true you cannot create resolution where there is none. This isn't CSI where they can enlarge a photo to magically have more detail than it ever did. So forcing 4K when it isn't true 4K is purely an optical illusion but if it does render at 4K then it will look amazing.
It actually does render at 4k though. The increase in quality from 1080 is significant.

We're not dealing with a picture or video. So while your original point is true, it's also irrelevant.
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