Pack mentality

[Nonomori]

What's the difference between Pack Mentality and Role Resonance and why guides advices to infuse this ability? I readed that Mentality increases strength and magic if all the monsters are the same role but Resonance do this as well! Or this abilities stacks so i can make even higher bonus?

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If I recall it correctly pack mentality boosts your monsters' str and mag if they're all of the same type (like when you're having a 3x chocobo setup), whilst role resonance boosts str and mag if you're on a RAV-RAV-RAV or COM-COM-COM paradigm (all active roles must be the same, not all monsters).

[Nonomori]

So party only with humans like both Lightning (rav and com) and for example Nabaat will give bonus Mentality?

[Nobodies]

Pack Mentality will only works if your monster have the same role in your Paradigm Pack.

[Kebess]

I'm going for all chocos, with pack mentality on the Red.

[Kebess]

Originally posted by Nobodies:

Pack Mentality will only works if your monster have the same role in your Paradigm Pack.

What? Really?
That sounds silly. Why have the same roles in the pack?

[Nonomori]

But it makes no sense to go only with ravs or only with coms. Don't know why guides advising this skill much if this is true.

[Ryrin]

Originally posted by Kebess:

Originally posted by Nobodies:

Pack Mentality will only works if your monster have the same role in your Paradigm Pack.

What? Really?
That sounds silly. Why have the same roles in the pack?

I think he's thinking of Role Resonance. And even that's not quite right since Role Resonance triggers when everyone in the current party is the same role, not the monster paradigm pack.

[Nonomori]

Originally posted by ryan0991:

Originally posted by Kebess:

What? Really?
That sounds silly. Why have the same roles in the pack?

I think he's thinking of Role Resonance.

If i remember it right, Role Resonance = all party members are the same ROLE like RAV+RAV+RAV or COM+COM+COM. And Mentality as i learned here is same MONSTERS in the pack. But i thought it's like all Chocobos or all humans or all robots but not all the same role in the pack. It's makes no sense.

[Nobodies]

Originally posted by ryan0991:

Originally posted by Kebess:

What? Really?
That sounds silly. Why have the same roles in the pack?

I think he's thinking of Role Resonance.

IIRC Role Resonance work in active paradigm while Pack Mentality work in role in Paradigm Pack that is why its called Pack Mentality.

[Ryrin]

Originally posted by Alabama Man:

Originally posted by ryan0991:

I think he's thinking of Role Resonance.

If i remember it right, Role Resonance = all party members are the same ROLE like RAV+RAV+RAV or COM+COM+COM. And Mentality as i learned here is same MONSTERS in the pack.

Yes, that's correct.

And on another note, I clearly didn't edit my post in time.

[Nonomori]

Originally posted by ryan0991:

Originally posted by Alabama Man:

If i remember it right, Role Resonance = all party members are the same ROLE like RAV+RAV+RAV or COM+COM+COM. And Mentality as i learned here is same MONSTERS in the pack.

Yes, that's correct.

And I clearly didn't edit my post in time.

So can you clarify it for us? What exactly is Mentality? Same roles in the pack or same monsters (Chocos, humans) in the pack?

[Nobodies]

As for my understanding isnt all obtainable crystals are considered monster?

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Final_Fantasy_XIII-2_Paradigm_Pack_Monsters

[Ryrin]

Not 100% sure how the game categorizes type, but the bestiary would be a good starting point:

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Bestiary_%28Final_Fantasy_XIII-2%29

Actually that probably is the categories that Pack Mentality uses.

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Originally posted by Nobodies:

As for my understanding isnt all obtainable crystals are considered monster?

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Final_Fantasy_XIII-2_Paradigm_Pack_Monsters

As mentioned in my first post, it's like 3x Chocobo or let's say 3x Behemoth. Doesn't have to be the same role, there are COM, RAV, MED Chocobos, like there are COM, RAV, MAN Behemoths. It works as long as it's 3x Chocobo/Behemoth/whatever. It isn't that hard to understand actually... mainly common sense... look at nature and think of a pack of animals. There wouldn't be any lions in a pack of wolves, right?^^

Originally posted by Nobodies:

Pack Mentality will only works if your monster have the same role in your Paradigm Pack.

That's not true at all.

Originally posted by Alabama Man:

So party only with humans like both Lightning (rav and com) and for example Nabaat will give bonus Mentality?

Tbh I don't know if it even works with the special monsters, never tried it.

[Kebess]

Originally posted by dazy89:

Originally posted by Nobodies:

As for my understanding isnt all obtainable crystals are considered monster?

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Final_Fantasy_XIII-2_Paradigm_Pack_Monsters

There wouldn't be any lions in a pack of wolves, right?^^

None that you know of... Simba was best friends with a boar.