FINAL FANTASY XIII

FINAL FANTASY XIII

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IkuMiku96 Aug 9, 2015 @ 10:57am
can i play FFXIII in low end pc
I have 2 pc (laptop and desktop),
Desktop,
Intel i3 2120 3.3GHz (with integrated intel hd 2000 @ 850MHz)
2GB DDR3-1366 ram
Sapphire Radeon HD 4350 512MB DDR2 64bit (overclocked to GPU@725MHz VRAM@475MHz)
Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit

Laptop,
Intel i5 m460 2.53GHz (i personally limited to 1.35GHz)(with integrated intel hd graphic)
5GB ddr3-1066 (2.7GB usable)
nVidia Geforce 310m 1GB DDR3 (GPU@625MHz, VRAM@667MHz, Shader@1530MHz)
Windows 10 pro technical preview build 10130 32bit


I know my pcs are very low ends by standards (though still kicking) and i expect them to run at best no more than 30fps. but im still curious. (by the way, i have Logitech F310 with Xinput, most of the time, it works very well like XBOX 360 controller)

in Metal Gear Rising: Revengance, both pc runs well, around 20-40fps, with more favours with geforce 310m (is not related in publisher but related as ported game)

im planning to buy Final Fantasy XIII in future if i can confirm that this game can run no less than 15fps in average. since this game was a lots of talks when i was in secondary school, i really want to play this game since the pc ver is out now. (i've played FFX and the story is kinda linear as well so i dont mind)

also, does GeDoSaTo help with the low end pc as well (like setting lower setting), besides unlocking 1080p?

anyone who has low end spec or similar spec as mine that ever played this game, pls tell your experiences~
(rather than try this game err.. without paying first with my spec, i want to genuine buy this game and play without any major problems)

(skip below if you dont want to read my internal gpu spec in detail)
my hd 4350 has much more resources in terms of the internal spec compared to geforce 310m but geforce 310m has more bandwidth than my hd 4350 due to ddr3 memory
my hd 4350 (overclocked) has 80 shader units, 8 TMUs (5.8 GTexel/s), 4 ROPs (2.9GPixel/s), 7.4GB/s bandwidth (based on GPU-Z)
my geforce 310m has 16 unified unit, 8 TMUs (5GTexel/s), 4 ROP (2.5GPixel/s), 12.8GB/s bandwidth, FPS@48.96GFLOPS

(personally, i bought XBOX360 wired controller once, which is a bit expensive than logitech and is really not reliable. poor quality, USB wire did broke and i self-repair the wire, last no longer than a year with bad left analog. lots of buyers did have the same exp. since logitech f310 is cheaper, although without vibration, it ways much more durable feel and not feeling so cheap, although xbox 360 controller has much more comfort with its softer trigger buttons)
Last edited by IkuMiku96; Aug 9, 2015 @ 11:09am
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SenMithrarin85 Aug 9, 2015 @ 1:55pm 
No on both counts. The game has no graphic options whatsoever beyond shadows and resolution (it also requires a minimum res of 720p; which you'd struggle to run the game in). Peformance is awful even if you have a 5th gen hexacore i7 and a 980ti anyway.
Prime_Zero Aug 9, 2015 @ 3:44pm 
Im not sure if you will be able to, those graphics cards are pretty bad. CPU and Memeory wise you seem good its just those graphics cards will be a bit iffy. I'll asume thats a business labtop though given how bad its graphics card is. As for your computer you should try and get a better graphics card for sure.

You'll have to spend around 70 to 100$ to buy a decent graphics card, I suggest you look on www.newegg.com. Maybe use sites like GPU boss to comapire ones you find. You could probably make your computer alot better too if you get more ram but for that you'll have to upgrade to windows 7 64 bit. You'll never get passed 2 gigs of memory with that 32 bit as it won't read any thing higher than 2 gigs no matter how much more memory you plug in.

I recently upgraded my pc, before I upgraded I had a Core Duo 2.9 Ghz, 2 gigs of ram, and a GT 240 graphics card, and windows 7. I was able to play this game just fine on that, After my big computer upgrade I honestly didn't see any difference in how well the game played.

But be warned, you need a Xbox controller to play this game, not having one plugged drops the frame rate and makes the game pretty god awful to play. Though I find it runs perfect so long as I use my xbox controller.

I think if you just get a new graphics card, it'll open up a whole lot of games for you. Few games tend to require higher than 2 gigs of ram any ways.

Edit: Just wanted to add one more thing, you might also try looking on newegg if you want a better game controller. Don't go cheap though or it won't last, and i do highly suggest a xbox controller given at how many pc games are xbox ports. This is the one I have, I have had it for years and really love it, had to get it when my old Playstation style one finally gave out on me.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA30R2TR2210&cm_re=Xbox_360_-_Controller_-_Wired_-_Microsoft_Afterglow-_-9SIA30R2TR2210-_-Product

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SenMithrarin85 Aug 9, 2015 @ 6:22pm 
Few games tend to require higher than 2 gigs of ram? Not played many games of recent times then? 4-6 is average now with a minimum of 2gb vram too.
Prime_Zero Aug 9, 2015 @ 8:13pm 
As a minimum requirement yes, although I find there are game requirements these days that arn't all that accurate. Keep in mind they base these requirements on what computers they have to test with. Metal Gear Rising is a good example, the requirement says you need a Intel Core i5, but there are people playing it on Core Duo's and i3's just fine.

2 gigs of ram is as low as I would go, but it is possible to play alot of games on just 2 gigs. Im not saying you can play every single game out there on it. But for the most part alot of games can.
GravityLoL Aug 9, 2015 @ 9:04pm 
Originally posted by Prime_Zero:
As a minimum requirement yes, although I find there are game requirements these days that arn't all that accurate. Keep in mind they base these requirements on what computers they have to test with. Metal Gear Rising is a good example, the requirement says you need a Intel Core i5, but there are people playing it on Core Duo's and i3's just fine.

2 gigs of ram is as low as I would go, but it is possible to play alot of games on just 2 gigs. Im not saying you can play every single game out there on it. But for the most part alot of games can.
while i agree at 100% with you ( especially at MGR part, since it was my situation :p)
i must say that OP won't make it with specs like that. sorry
IkuMiku96 Aug 10, 2015 @ 7:05am 
Originally posted by Prime_Zero:
Im not sure if you will be able to, those graphics cards are pretty bad. CPU and Memeory wise you seem good its just those graphics cards will be a bit iffy. I'll asume thats a business labtop though given how bad its graphics card is. As for your computer you should try and get a better graphics card for sure.

You'll have to spend around 70 to 100$ to buy a decent graphics card, I suggest you look on www.newegg.com. Maybe use sites like GPU boss to comapire ones you find. You could probably make your computer alot better too if you get more ram but for that you'll have to upgrade to windows 7 64 bit. You'll never get passed 2 gigs of memory with that 32 bit as it won't read any thing higher than 2 gigs no matter how much more memory you plug in.

I recently upgraded my pc, before I upgraded I had a Core Duo 2.9 Ghz, 2 gigs of ram, and a GT 240 graphics card, and windows 7. I was able to play this game just fine on that, After my big computer upgrade I honestly didn't see any difference in how well the game played.

But be warned, you need a Xbox controller to play this game, not having one plugged drops the frame rate and makes the game pretty god awful to play. Though I find it runs perfect so long as I use my xbox controller.

I think if you just get a new graphics card, it'll open up a whole lot of games for you. Few games tend to require higher than 2 gigs of ram any ways.

Edit: Just wanted to add one more thing, you might also try looking on newegg if you want a better game controller. Don't go cheap though or it won't last, and i do highly suggest a xbox controller given at how many pc games are xbox ports. This is the one I have, I have had it for years and really love it, had to get it when my old Playstation style one finally gave out on me.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA30R2TR2210&cm_re=Xbox_360_-_Controller_-_Wired_-_Microsoft_Afterglow-_-9SIA30R2TR2210-_-Product

your previous spec isnt that bad to me, but, the surprise is, FFXIII doesnt really gain performance after an upgrade!

i was looking for cheap deal of Radeon HD 7750 (that card was like my 'first time in love'; especially low-profile Sapphire Radeon HD 7750, although they are kinda no so good nowadays)(i prefer HD 7750 cuz that card at least doesnt requires any extra power other than from PCI-E. plus, Sapphire ver, i found most of them can OC its GPU like almost on par with HD 7770). i dont care for second hand cuz thats what im searching for.

does my Logitech F310 will be enough for err, not having frame-rate drop?



Originally posted by Prime_Zero:
As a minimum requirement yes, although I find there are game requirements these days that arn't all that accurate. Keep in mind they base these requirements on what computers they have to test with. Metal Gear Rising is a good example, the requirement says you need a Intel Core i5, but there are people playing it on Core Duo's and i3's just fine.

2 gigs of ram is as low as I would go, but it is possible to play alot of games on just 2 gigs. Im not saying you can play every single game out there on it. But for the most part alot of games can.

the most important thing when having a 2GB ram is, i run in 32 bit and set paging file to the most fastest HDD drive available. (though is slower than having 4GB natively after exit the game, is not that bad). also, i use CleanMem to clean my memory in schedule time (every 5 mins) st that i have enough ram space)
but, my laptop, actually, runs in 'Windows to Go' mode so i disable paging file to speed up the laptop, especially since this dont have USB 3.0 support... 4+1 GB ram was originally DDR3-1600 but due to bad ram weirdly, when paired with my ddr3-1066 ram, the ram works like a charm.

so, 2 GB ram is like the 'at least' minimum

so, the only thing that bottleneck me is my graphic card (both my pcs)...
but, do you think that GeDoSaTo will at least give some options to lower the graphic?

though the geforce 310m runs faster at higher resolution with low - med graphic setting in most game, my hd 4350 runs perfectly fine with higher setting but with much lower resolution... (at least, 848x480 output is supported then use anti aliasing at 4x, at least looks like console graphic, works cool when connected to HDTV)
Prime_Zero Aug 10, 2015 @ 5:34pm 
I don't know for sure if your controller will work or not, like I said before I have a xbox 360 one so I wouldn't know if your logitic would work or not.

I still think your labtop is a business labtop and not really ment at all for gamining. The specs on the graphics card for it are far lower than your PC's. That and integrated graphics cards are never really good for gaming.

As for your Pc, yes your graphics card is bottle necking you for sure,its the only real thing you need to upgrade but like I said before you'll be spending around 100$ to do it. Im more of a fan of Geforce than AMD Radeon cards. So im not to sure what AMD Radeon card to suggest to you. This is the one I have, and I love it, its power requirements are low too so you should be able to run it asuming you have the cash to buy it. Its actually 69.99$ with the 30$ mail in rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127788&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Desktop+Graphics+Cards-_-N82E16814127788&gclid=CPSEhYHRn8cCFQIIaQodz_gESg&gclsrc=aw.ds

Im not sure what to tell you about trying to squeeze more juice out of the graphics cards you have now. I know some games have mods or suggested settings for playing on low end computers. But im not sure what else you can do other than updateing those graphics cards..

As it stands now you can't play FF13, but if your ownly reason for upgrading your computer is to play this game. You might wonna pass, its not a bad game but its not a great game. Better than FF12 was, but less than what FF10 and all those before it was. The combat system for it feels like it was made for little kids in my opinion and the story is okay ish.

There isn't really any thing more I can say or to do to help you other than what I have said so far.
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IkuMiku96 Aug 10, 2015 @ 8:35pm 
Originally posted by Prime_Zero:
I don't know for sure if your controller will work or not, like I said before I have a xbox 360 one so I wouldn't know if your logitic would work or not.

I still think your labtop is a business labtop and not really ment at all for gamining. The specs on the graphics card for it are far lower than your PC's. That and integrated graphics cards are never really good for gaming.

As for your Pc, yes your graphics card is bottle necking you for sure,its the only real thing you need to upgrade but like I said before you'll be spending around 100$ to do it. Im more of a fan of Geforce than AMD Radeon cards. So im not to sure what AMD Radeon card to suggest to you. This is the one I have, and I love it, its power requirements are low too so you should be able to run it asuming you have the cash to buy it. Its actually 69.99$ with the 30$ mail in rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127788&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Desktop+Graphics+Cards-_-N82E16814127788&gclid=CPSEhYHRn8cCFQIIaQodz_gESg&gclsrc=aw.ds

Im not sure what to tell you about trying to squeeze more juice out of the graphics cards you have now. I know some games have mods or suggested settings for playing on low end computers. But im not sure what else you can do other than updateing those graphics cards..

As it stands now you can't play FF13, but if your ownly reason for upgrading your computer is to play this game. You might wonna pass, its not a bad game but its not a great game. Better than FF12 was, but less than what FF10 and all those before it was. The combat system for it feels like it was made for little kids in my opinion and the story is okay ish.

There isn't really any thing more I can say or to do to help you other than what I have said so far.

well, had to wait then. plus, just like you said, more games will open to me once i upgrade my graphic card. (is kinda true that i was like hoping much from this game since the hype my friend showed to me when we were still in secondary school)

though that MSI GTX 750 is quite a good deal (especially its GTX which enters the mid gaming), i think i had to go for even lower price though (but still, looks cheap enough for GTX 750). not that im a fan of AMD but it just that AMD is usually cheaper and more perfoemance per price (nVidia is a good choice too, especially for GPU or CUDA acceleration)

anyways, thanks for the advice~ although i do want to play this game, i dont really want to get bad experience in playing games due to too much frame drops. (though this game seems like not gaining performance in high class graphic card)

sammykneen Aug 11, 2015 @ 3:31am 
There's a customized launcher you can download for the game here which allows you to lower your resoluion and graphic details even more so you could run it a bit better:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/619574421354843907/

Great game despite performance so worth a try.
mad_le_zisell Aug 15, 2015 @ 12:00pm 
Yes. For Laptop. I've played it on similar desktop.
GUY Aug 17, 2015 @ 2:55am 
Just try it and get a steam refund if it doesn't work...This game working fine and being unplayable is a literal gamble that doesnt' matter on specs at all.
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