FINAL FANTASY XIII

FINAL FANTASY XIII

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i want a turn based jrpg
is this a turn based jrpg ?
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Lars Mar 6, 2018 @ 7:19am 
no
Phreya™ Mar 6, 2018 @ 10:34am 
Originally posted by Winky 2.0:
Yes it is.
Don't lie.
Phreya™ Mar 6, 2018 @ 10:56am 
It's better to watch some youtube videos and decide for yourself OP.
Phreya™ Mar 6, 2018 @ 11:01am 
Originally posted by Winky 2.0:
I took a chance and bought it on ps3 for 20$ and I'm really glad I did.

Or I'd be bored to tears with the same edgy crap all the other vampires feed on.
I didn't ask.
Lars Mar 6, 2018 @ 11:56am 
Originally posted by Winky 2.0:
Yes it is.


Don't call the combat in FFXIII turnbased. That would indicate the action stops while you issue commands. FFXIII's paradigm combat system has much more in common with the 'active time battle' style.

That said the combat system in this game is really enjoyable and I highly recommend it. But its not turn based.
Serafie1999AD Mar 6, 2018 @ 12:18pm 
Originally posted by DOGGYSTYLER²:
is this a turn based jrpg ?

Check here for a list of what each FF battle system is like: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_system

In short, FFs 1-3 are fully turn-based in a way that everyone acts once during a turn, though characters with the best speed stats tend to act first on each turn. Final Fantasy X and World of Final Fantasy (on Wait mode) are turn-based in a way that speed stats affect who gets the next turn, but at any rate, the action pauses whenever you have a turn.

FFs 4-9 and X-2 use Active Time Battle (ATB) system, where each character has a turn gauge that keeps charging according to their speed stat. The difference with the turn-based system is that time does not stop at your turn. Instead, if you don't make decisions quickly, the other characters (including enemies) will also get their turn ready, and you will get attacked. In those FFs, there is a wait mode that pauses the time gauge when you're browsing the submenus, so you won't get attacked by enemies while selecting spells, but it will only work on submenus.

The single-player FFs after that use a more specialized version of ATB. FFXII has you fight the enemies on the field (rather than on separate combat screens). If you have the battles set on wait mode, the time pauses whenever you access the battle menu, and it always pauses whenever you select the main menu. In the FFXIII trilogy, you can use the ATB bar to select multiple commands. The battles are fast-paced, and there is no way to pause the time while you're selecting commands. In other words, it's not turn-based at all; the enemies will keep attacking you on your turn if you don't input your commands fast enough.

FF Tactics series are turn-based strategy games. There the speed stat determines who gets the next turn, but whenever a character has a turn, time is paused and the others won't interrupt you during your turn.
Lars Mar 7, 2018 @ 12:08pm 
The combat in FF XIII is real time, even if there's ATB bars to wait for before each character acts.

Again, as I explained in the post you quoted, turn based combat means that the gameplay pauses, allowing time to plan before each action.

I understand that's not what it means to you personally, and evidently many other people since XIII even has the 'turn based' user tag on Steam, but that doesn't make it any more correct.

Just like, to use another example, it is wrong to label popular games with procedurally generated levels and permadeath as, such as Binding of Isaac, as a 'roguelike' (which of course doesn't stop everyone from doing it, since they have no idea what 'Rogue' is)
Serafie1999AD Mar 7, 2018 @ 2:30pm 
You don't take turns. Instead, your abilities have a "cooldown time", dictated by your ATB gauge. If you aren't fast enough to act when you have a chance to do something, the enemies will act instead, before you.

Originally posted by Winky 2.0:
You pick commands and take turns, the enemies have to wait on your turn, adamantoise doesn't use ultima then get to use ultima again right afterwards he has to wait.

That is wrong. When you have your ATB full, the Adamantoise doesn't wait "on your turn". When the Adamantoise's ATB bar is full again, it can cast Ultima again no matter whether you've acted or not. A turn-based would mean that the Adamantoise will never act until you've spent your turn.
Last edited by Serafie1999AD; Mar 7, 2018 @ 2:31pm
Phreya™ Mar 8, 2018 @ 3:43am 
When people bother to explain something to Matt, but it just goes through his thick head from ear to ear like nothing as always. Then he went full insulting people who disagree with him.
Witnessing this never gets old, lmao. 😂👌
Phreya™ Mar 8, 2018 @ 3:54am 
Originally posted by Winky 2.0:
BS I know wtf FF is
Originally posted by Winky 2.0:
How many FF's you beat? How many turn based rpgs you beat, I know wtf turn based rpg is and these people are flat out lying to the OP.
Originally posted by Winky 2.0:
You and all these little edgy newb FF fans make me wanna puke.
Stop being so edgy, you're scaring the children.
Serafie1999AD Mar 8, 2018 @ 4:18am 
ATB is a mix of real time with turn-based elements, but an FF with the ATB system isn't considered a real turn-based FF. Also, if you try to run away from battles, or use status effects like Regen or Poison, those effects take place in real time, even if it's not your turn.

I don't understand your behavior, either. You call people edgy, and still you go on heavy insults and accuse people of lying when they explain why you are wrong, rather than coming up with any arguments to back your claims. And no, not being turn-based doesn't make an action RPG, and where are you getting the argument that I'm trying to sell FFXV? I've only played the PC demo of that game, and I wasn't really impressed.

Originally posted by Winky 2.0:
How many FF's you beat? How many turn based rpgs you beat, I know wtf turn based rpg is and these people are flat out lying to the OP.

What does this have to do with anything? But if you want to know:
I've beat: FF1 NES, FF1 WSC, FF1 PSX, FF1 GBA, FF2 NES Japanese, FF2 GBA, FF3 NES Japanese, FF3 PSP, FF4 SNES (called FF2), FF4 SNES Japanese, FF4 GBA, FF4 Steam, FF5 SNES Japanese, FF6 SNES (called FF3), FF Tactics PSX, FF7 PSX, FF7 PC, FF8 PC, FF9 PSX, FFX PS2, FFX-2 PS2, FFXII PS2, FFXIII Xbox 360, FFXIII-2 Xbox 360 and LR Xbox 360.

In addition, I've played: FF1 PSP, FF1 mobile, FF2 PSP, FF3 DS, FF3 mobile, FF4 PSX, FF4 PSP, FF4 mobile, FF5 PSX, FF5 GBA, FF5 Steam, FF6 PSX, FF6 GBA, FF6 Steam, FF8 PSX, FF9 Steam, FFX PS3, FFX Steam, FFX-2 PS3, FFX-2 Steam, FFXII Steam, FFXII: RW DS, FFXIII Steam, FFXIII-2 Steam, LR Steam, FF Tactics PSP, FF Tactics A2 DS. I've also played FF: MQ for SNES and FFTA for GBA for a few hours, but I got bored so I didn't play them for longer.

Yeah, I guess that counts as "edgy newb FF fan" who tries to "sell that abomination 15". And surely your claim that "FF is a dead franchise anyway with fans like you" must be true too. This "newb" started with FFs 18 years ago. That's when I was a newb. Judging by the immature tone of your rants, you weren't even born 18 years ago.

Originally posted by Winky 2.0:
Speed or Agility determined when they got their TURN! Is this no different than ATB? So why is one turn based and another isn't?

Lars and I already explained this to you: one is turn-based when the action stops at your turn.
Last edited by Serafie1999AD; Mar 8, 2018 @ 4:21am
Phreya™ Mar 8, 2018 @ 4:27am 
Originally posted by Winky 2.0:
Ok thanks you sure like to type about how great a FF player you are.

Originally posted by Winky 2.0:
BS I know wtf FF is
Originally posted by Winky 2.0:
How many FF's you beat? How many turn based rpgs you beat, I know wtf turn based rpg is and these people are flat out lying to the OP.
Originally posted by Winky 2.0:
You and all these little edgy newb FF fans make me wanna puke.
Oh the irony. xD
Phreya™ Mar 8, 2018 @ 4:32am 
Originally posted by Winky 2.0:
All I get is ♥♥♥♥ in these forums, love the games hate the players I dont even know why anyone posts here its just a bunch of crap, flamers and trolls everywhere.
I saw that. https://i.imgur.com/PULbfIx.png
Unseen (Banned) Mar 8, 2018 @ 4:33am 
Originally posted by Phreya™:
Originally posted by Winky 2.0:
All I get is ♥♥♥♥ in these forums, love the games hate the players I dont even know why anyone posts here its just a bunch of crap, flamers and trolls everywhere.
I saw that. https://i.imgur.com/PULbfIx.png

I'm not clicking on your filth.
Serafie1999AD Mar 8, 2018 @ 4:33am 
Originally posted by Winky 2.0:
love the games

Originally posted by Winky 2.0:
sell that abomination 15 who cares FF is a dead franchise anyway with fans like you

Originally posted by Winky 2.0:
they damn sure aint some hack and slash boring garbage like they made 15.

Originally posted by Winky 2.0:
THE WORST FF IS MYSTIQ QUEST!
ITS A BABY GAME PULL YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR JUDGMENTAL @$$HOLES!

Yes, indeed.
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