Radovid victory is canon geralt dont help kill kings

[Dorfo]

Geralt from the books would never tell Sig Reuven anything about Ciri he would definitely break Sig Reuven's leg to get him out of his way that's very Geralt of Rivia he has no love for North or South he is worried about saving Ciri . ♥♥♥♥ politics

[Trans Lives Matter <3]

Indeed but I this is the thing about the game... it puts you in moral dilemmas... What is the right thing to do? Or in many cases, what is the least bad thing to do? Or even, what would Geralt actually do?

[Valden21]

Geralt might not care about politics, but he DOES care about his friends and loved ones. Radovid wants to get rid of all mages and nonhumans, so that means that Zoltan, Dudu, Triss, and Yenn are all in danger if Radovid wins. As a rule, Geralt knows that there's rarely a choice that's morally good, so he tends to go with the choice that's the least evil. When it comes to the choice of Radovid vs. Emhyr, the least evil is Emhyr.

[Dorfo]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Valden21:

Geralt might not care about politics, but he DOES care about his friends and loved ones. Radovid wants to get rid of all mages and nonhumans, so that means that Zoltan, Dudu, Triss, and Yenn are all in danger if Radovid wins. As a rule, Geralt knows that there's rarely a choice that's morally good, so he tends to go with the choice that's the least evil. When it comes to the choice of Radovid vs. Emhyr, the least evil is Emhyr.

In this part of the story, Geralt's friends aren't even in danger. They've practically already left Novigrad or leaving at the end of the radovid. It's the only ending that stays alive. who started the war was nilfgaard killing two kings of the north using letho friend of geralt i don't think nilfgaard has the right to dominate the north they are the invaders

geralt doesn't need to choose either sides

[every1hasnames]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dorfo:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Valden21:

Geralt might not care about politics, but he DOES care about his friends and loved ones. Radovid wants to get rid of all mages and nonhumans, so that means that Zoltan, Dudu, Triss, and Yenn are all in danger if Radovid wins. As a rule, Geralt knows that there's rarely a choice that's morally good, so he tends to go with the choice that's the least evil. When it comes to the choice of Radovid vs. Emhyr, the least evil is Emhyr.

In this part of the story, Geralt's friends aren't even in danger. They've practically already left Novigrad or leaving at the end of the radovid. It's the only ending that stays alive. who started the war was nilfgaard killing two kings of the north using letho friend of geralt i don't think nilfgaard has the right to dominate the north they are the invaders

geralt doesn't need to choose either sides

sure. but you do realize that only means their safe at the moment correct?

if radovid is alive. that means geralts friends. would always be in danger.

and novigrad is just a city. not the end all be all place that was the only place they would be in danger. getting out of novigrad made them safer. not 100 percent safe.


and they wouldnt ever be 100 percent safe with radovid alive. atleast not in countries radovid controlled.
not in countries the church of the eternal fire was operating in.

also keep in mind. countries that allowed mages to live. radovid would have a issue with. meaning. country to country relations mages and the like. would always be an issue as long as radovid remained in power.



look at real life.


countries interact with each other. including interacting with each others laws. the laws each country has does have an effect on their relationship with other countries. What other countries do affect other countries.
and frankly mages would be a point of interest for radovid in terms of dealing with other countries.


for example.


lets say radovid and kovir. come together to talk trade. kovir wants alot of trade from radovid.



radovid knows Triss a lodge of sorceress member is in kovir. lets say he does.
do you think. it would be possible radovid might stipulate triss being handed over to him as part of the trade agreement?


keep in mind.
prisoner trades is a normal thing in real life. happens all the bloody time.

usa stupidely mind you pretty recently as in within a year or so dont exactly remember , traded a arms dealer for a female basketball player. meaning they released an arms dealer who was in in the united states prison system in order for russia to release a womans nba basketball player who was in russian prison for marijuana charges.


point of this is. geralts friends wouldnt actually be 100 percent safe as long as radovid remained in power.



also. keep in mind that geralt would have eventually been on the choping block himself.


meaning. geralt a witcher. a magical oddity. would eventually be a target.
and that point was made in the game aswell.
i get you dont think geralt would have actually made the choice.



frankly i dont believe he would have not. because logic dictates geralt would have to do something or end up being in the same position. a magical oddity hunted.


and constantly either on the run. or have the fear of needing to be on the run.

[ute]

Perhaps that´s why "Reason of State" is broken in patch 4.04... so that You can´t kill Radovid anymore.

[Valden21]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dorfo:

In this part of the story, Geralt's friends aren't even in danger. They've practically already left Novigrad or leaving at the end of the radovid. It's the only ending that stays alive. who started the war was nilfgaard killing two kings of the north using letho friend of geralt i don't think nilfgaard has the right to dominate the north they are the invaders

geralt doesn't need to choose either sides

Zoltan's in danger due to being a dwarf, Triss and Yen are in danger due to being mages. We've seen what Radovid's regime does to mages, which is to torture them and then burn them alive. When the mages are gone, Radovid'll target the nonhumans; we see this in-game upon entering Novigrad near the end of the game.

Yenn's working with Emhyr only because he's able to protect her; that's not gonna be applicable if Radovid wins. Triss is safe in Kovir only because the king doesn't believe Radovid's propaganda, but he's just one guy; if his heir believes differently, then Triss is toast. Zoltan's got NO escape route; he and Dandelion stick out like a sore thumb. Dudu's only safe as long as he doesn't run into anyone his double actually knows. The key word in most of those situations is "only"; if any of those situations change, the people in those situations are in danger. All four individuals fall into the category of people Geralt cares about, so he would act against Radovid only for their sake.

[longjohn119]

Here is what ends up happening if Radovid wins ...... It's the worst ending

" ....simple herbalists, pellars, healers and non-humans - all supposed heretics - were murdered in droves."

https://youtu.be/cRxlwWXx9p8

[Dorfo]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von russell_john:

Here is what ends up happening if Radovid wins ...... It's the worst ending

" ....simple herbalists, pellars, healers and non-humans - all supposed heretics - were murdered in droves."

https://youtu.be/cRxlwWXx9p8

https://witcher.fandom.com/wiki/Iron_Judgment https://gwent.fandom.com/wiki/King_Radovid_V

[Bilgot the Heartless]

When Nilfgaard wins, Northern Realms don't exist anymore. That is why I prefer when Radovid wins.

[A]

Interesting discussion here boys. I haven't done Empress Ciri yet but I might do it in this playthrough. Question: Doesn't this make Empress Ciri a really good ending? Ciri relaxes tension in the north, then you betray Roche for Djikstra and reset the board? A strong redania that doesn't ♥♥♥♥ over nonhumans, a dead temeria, and a sympathetic empress on the throne?

[Demosthenes424]

Just as fun an argument now as every other time... but whatever the book Geralt might have done, it's irrelevant if you're talking about "canon." In the books, Nilfgaard doesn't invade again because the story is over and Sapkowski's done writing it. Therefore, there is no "canon" for how it should go. If there were, CDPR probably would have changed it to another choice. The whole point is to give the player choices that matter - and, secondarily, to make sure that none of the choices you're given are ever the "right" ones because there is no right or wrong in conflicts between cultures. Just who wins, and therefore who writes the histories.

While you're at it, maybe you could argue about whether Triss or Yennefer is the right choice? I bet someone'll find the incontrovertibly right answer for this question of opinion any day now.

[Six of Saturn]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Bilgot(penis problem):

When Nilfgaard wins, Northern Realms don't exist anymore. That is why I prefer when Radovid wins.

Thats not true at all. Temeria becomes a Empire vassal state under it's own administration if Radovid and Sigi are killed. Like Toussaint. Where Radovid and Sigi/Dykstra both annex the north into one Redania.

[Dorfo]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von A:

Interesting discussion here boys. I haven't done Empress Ciri yet but I might do it in this playthrough. Question: Doesn't this make Empress Ciri a really good ending? Ciri relaxes tension in the north, then you betray Roche for Djikstra and reset the board? A strong redania that doesn't ♥♥♥♥ over nonhumans, a dead temeria, and a sympathetic empress on the throne?

ciri doesn't want to be empress she hates it when you arrived at the audience with emyher didn't you see the picture with her angry face? emyher wanted to make a child in ciri wanted to use her in their plans emyher is a monster in the books people like to sympathize with nilfgaard emyher tried to kill geralt and yenefer in the books used scoitael the elves in his plans and then abandoned them in certain death

[Dorfo]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Demosthenes424:

Just as fun an argument now as every other time... but whatever the book Geralt might have done, it's irrelevant if you're talking about "canon." In the books, Nilfgaard doesn't invade again because the story is over and Sapkowski's done writing it. Therefore, there is no "canon" for how it should go. If there were, CDPR probably would have changed it to another choice. The whole point is to give the player choices that matter - and, secondarily, to make sure that none of the choices you're given are ever the "right" ones because there is no right or wrong in conflicts between cultures. Just who wins, and therefore who writes the histories.

While you're at it, maybe you could argue about whether Triss or Yennefer is the right choice? I bet someone'll find the incontrovertibly right answer for this question of opinion any day now.

yennefer

[Six of Saturn]

At this point in Geralts life where Reason of State comes into play I would not brush his willingness to interfere for once aside. Vesemir is dead, the remaining members of the school of the wolf have parted ways once and for all. Kaer Morhen is for the most part dead with no one planning to ever return, it's the trolls rocks now. These are dynamics that can shift Geralts whole outlook. Dijkstra also makes a very strong case. Another thing Geralt never mentions Ciri to Dijkstra {except when saying the emperor wants to give her the throne when bribing him with info for Phil} in any dialog as far as I remember. But I also assume Sigi knows.....EVERYTHING LOL.