The Ending: *Spoilers*

[Possum]

So how did you find the ending. I am still a bit baffled. Allthough CDPR did not do a Mass Effect 3 on us they still did not listen to the feedback Bioware had.

Do NOT introduce a new enemy/threat in the last minutes of the game, that makes the whole games story arc pointless.

The enemy I am talking about is never talked about as being a force of its own just a side effect of the Wild Hunt. To me it always seemed that it came AFTER the Wild Hunt conquered a world. To me as well the motivation of the wild hunt made no sense after that.

So the old Elves looked for a new world to conquer cause their old world was dying? So they just freeze the very same world they want to invade using Ciris powers to death? I dont get it. Maybe someone who did read all the books might explain this to me.

[The Glizzy Goblin]

pikelxxx の投稿を引用：

You visit their capital, and there's no sign of white cold. In discussion with that elf, it is implied Eredin has obsession about white cold (much like Grand Master Jacob from Witcher 1) and desperately tries to secure new world even though it's not really that necessary now. Also that elf says how do they cross world, that some doors are opened for a period of time, and only Ciri has ability to cross worlds at any time at any scale as she wants.

But based on what we see ingame, there are alot of small doors opened often for very short ammounts of time, they could still move an invasion force through in an isolated area. And Can't navigator's teleport? Or do they still use the doors?

Eredin's character is super underdeveloped then, because they totally missed the oppertunity to give the villain a human(oid) purpose. Give the villain depth you say? NOPE Instead we get "Eredin's bad cuz he's bad". If, and only if, the world of Elves was being effected by the White Frost and Eredin knew Ciri could possibly stop it, however decides to try and save his civilization (Temporarily) and maybe thought that Avalach's solution was too risky and a waste of time, then the plot would have more depth. Then maybe change how there king died, maybe Eredin killed him because he refused to do anything about the White Cold and was some Religous nut who thought is was there fate to die.

It's dissapointing that an adult, mature RPG decides to have such a 2d villain with 2d goals. "Power for Power's sake". Ugh. Also, still doesn't explain why they bring the "White Cold Effect" around with them, unless Eredin has a fetish for staging his attacks on a "White Cold" planet. In my opinion Fire would've been a cooler, more Eye-candy effect instead of imitating the White Cold.

Btw, his boss fight was way to easy (Hard mode), easier than the fight right before him. While the ending we get is better than Mass Effect 3, they didn't learn from Bioware.

[Possum]

Yeah. When Eredin mentioned that he had somethign to tell to Geralt after the fight when Geralt would be laying down dying I felt like finally we get some understanding of his motives. But then it turns out to be a plot twist we were seeing coming from a mile away. Yes they twst "back" a few moments later but still. Eredin is a generic bad guy. Opportunity missed.

[Tantal]

Actually, after educating myself it seems that's not quite what wild hunt is planning. He wanted to save his world, by another Conjunction of the spheres. He wanted to use Ciri power, to merge both worlds into one.

As prophecied by Ilithinne, swallow (Ciri) will save world from white frost.

As for presence of frost in locations attacked by wild hunt, i think it's just regular magic not any apocalyptic effect.
That elf tells us that Eredin enjoys having power and being king, so he usually trust matters of administration to others while he himself rides with horsemen and attacks people for fun.

[Chetalos]

the below prophecy is mentioned 3+ times in game, is in full in one of the collectable books, was reoccuring throught the series including being the primary motivation of the final antagonist of the first game. It's also on page one of the first full novel of the series.

Aen Ithlinnespeath, Ithlinne Aegli aep Aevenien's prophecy

Verily I say unto you, the era of the sword and axe is nigh, the era of the wolf's blizzard. The Time of the White Chill and the White Light is nigh, the Time of Madness and the Time of Contempt: Tedd Deireádh, the Time of End. The world will die amidst frost and be reborn with the new sun. It will be reborn of Elder Blood, of Hen Ichaer, of the seed that has been sown. A seed which will not sprout but burst into flame.

Ess'tuath esse! Thus it shall be! Watch for the signs! What signs these shall be, I say unto you: first the earth will flow with the blood of Aen Seidhe, the Blood of Elves...

to say it came out of left field is a tad unfair

[The Glizzy Goblin]

pikelxxx の投稿を引用：

Actually, after educating myself it seems that's not quite what wild hunt is planning. He wanted to save his world, by another Conjunction of the spheres. He wanted to use Ciri power, to merge both worlds into one.

As prophecied by Ilithinne, swallow (Ciri) will save world from white frost.

As for presence of frost in locations attacked by wild hunt, i think it's just regular magic not any apocalyptic effect.
That elf tells us that Eredin enjoys having power and being king, so he usually trust matters of administration to others while he himself rides with horsemen and attacks people for fun.

Still makes him a shallow villain. And why Ice? Fire's cooler (artistic differences)
So he wanted to combine worlds, how does that stop the White Cold? anyway, I'm talking purely about the game here. Books can be damned, they aren't the game. Geralt never ♥♥♥♥♥♥ Triss and Yennefer, then killed a archgriffin with a crossbow and firestream in the books.

[Mikey]

One of the books you can pick up in Tir Na Lía clearly says the border regions of their world have been given up due to the white frost, so it does actually affect them.

Another tome says the white frost originates in the "space" between the worlds (note not space as we know it) and that it will over time consume every world there is.

And about Eredin. He is a powermonger, he poisoned the king to gain power not because he wanted to save everyone.
He is also part of the Aen Elle who have been at odds with the Aen Seidhe (elves in the human world) ever since their first homeworld was destroyed by the white frost

[The Glizzy Goblin]

Mikehsan の投稿を引用：

One of the books you can pick up in Tir Na Lía clearly says the border regions of their world have been given up due to the white frost, so it does actually affect them.

Another tome says the white frost originates in the "space" between the worlds (note not space as we know it) and that it will over time consume every world there is.

And about Eredin. He is a powermonger, he poisoned the king to gain power not because he wanted to save everyone.
He is also part of the Aen Elle who have been at odds with the Aen Seidhe (elves in the human world) ever since their first homeworld was destroyed by the white frost

Ok so they hid that in a book, why? Aren't details like that more significant than some random woman having there tit fall out of her shirt?

[Sundusk]

Jackal の投稿を引用：

yeah white frost is basically like mass effect trilogy only revealing reapers within the last 1 hour of the 3 game trilogy

dont try to basically like criticize the game, theres a lot of rabid fanboys just attacking anyone who is. give it some time.

like the whole storyline of witcher is completely full of bad story telling tropes , white hair, amesia, scar over their eyes, chosen one, and ciri herself is basically one giant "mary sue" i think its called, becomes very cringe enducing when she did the whole screaming power thing in kaer morhen

someone dint play witcher 1,the white frost is mention there so no new enemy,i know dev say you dont need to play the last 2 to understand but a lots of stuff you need to know before hand to fully understand the story

[Possum]

Chetalos の投稿を引用：

the below prophecy is mentioned 3+ times in game, is in full in one of the collectable books, was reoccuring throught the series including being the primary motivation of the final antagonist of the first game. It's also on page one of the first full novel of the series.

Aen Ithlinnespeath, Ithlinne Aegli aep Aevenien's prophecy

Verily I say unto you, the era of the sword and axe is nigh, the era of the wolf's blizzard. The Time of the White Chill and the White Light is nigh, the Time of Madness and the Time of Contempt: Tedd Deireádh, the Time of End. The world will die amidst frost and be reborn with the new sun. It will be reborn of Elder Blood, of Hen Ichaer, of the seed that has been sown. A seed which will not sprout but burst into flame.

Ess'tuath esse! Thus it shall be! Watch for the signs! What signs these shall be, I say unto you: first the earth will flow with the blood of Aen Seidhe, the Blood of Elves...

to say it came out of left field is a tad unfair

Point taken. Why is the game called "Wild Hunt" then and not "White Frost" ? :)

[Chetalos]

The white frost isn't really an antagonist, it's the space between worlds, like the vacuum of space. Not alive, not sentient but it'll sure as hell kill a world if it's exposed to it. The hunt travel through it to different worlds hence the snow and ice in their portals

[hyundaiblast]

Also the game is heavily based on the books and it draws its story from the books so its definitely not an anticlimactic story, imo it's one of the best stories i've played. Also you need to read the books in the game you find through the story missions because it gives you quite an understanding on the lore

[PIT_DEFENDER]

I guess you could ask CDP to just lay it out to us, I am all confused now xD

[Tantal]

From wiki
Eredin, along with the Aen Saevherne elf, Avallac'h, once possessed a great power known as The Gate of the Worlds, which allowed them to control space and time. They had used this power to conquer the world in which the Aen Elle currently reside, exterminating all of it's human inhabitants in the process (a fact discovered by Ciri when she stumbles across a gigantic mass grave). The two elves subsequently lost their power by unknown means, and had since conspired together to reclaim it.

In the fifth tome of The Witcher Saga, The Lady of the Lake, Eredin meets Ciri while she is en route with Avallac'h to Tir ná Lia, where she was expected to produce an heir for Auberon Muircetach, the reigning king of the Aen Elle, after which she would be allowed to return to her own world. Ciri becomes quite taken with Eredin, and realizing this, he plots to use her to further his and Avallac'h's schemes; the two intend for her child to act as a means for them to regain their power.

When Ciri and Auberon struggled to conceive, Eredin supplies the king with a specially blended aphrodisiac to enhance his performance. The concoction proves to be too much for Auberon, however, and he dies after consuming it. In the wake of the king's untimely death, Eredin becomes the defacto ruler of the Aen Elle, and with their plans ruined, he and Avallac'h resolve not to release Ciri for fear that her abilities might be used against them in the future.

Shortly thereafter, Ciri escapes with the help of the unicorns, and travels to an unknown world, with Eredin and his cavalry giving chase. He later appears to her as a wraith while she is resting at a tavern, telling her that he will wait for her at The Spiral, a place she will eventually reach after her long journey through space and time.

At some point, Eredin and the Dearg Ruadhri enter the human world. Appearing as spectral warriors on horseback, they terrorize the land and abduct villagers to be used as slaves. They become known and feared as the Wild Hunt, with Eredin as their terrible king.

[Krakuus]

Jackal の投稿を引用：

yeah white frost is basically like mass effect trilogy only revealing reapers within the last 1 hour of the 3 game trilogy

dont try to basically like criticize the game, theres a lot of rabid fanboys just attacking anyone who is. give it some time.

like the whole storyline of witcher is completely full of bad story telling tropes , white hair, amesia, scar over their eyes, chosen one, and ciri herself is basically one giant "mary sue" i think its called, becomes very cringe enducing when she did the whole screaming power thing in kaer morhen

What a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, you clearly haven't played previous games nor read the novels not to mention you haven't even focus enough on Witcher 3 story and yet you criticize it...

[Toc]

The reason everything freezes when the hunt shows up is their navigators open portals to realms that have been consumed by the white frost shortly before coming through themselves. They want Ciri because she could move their entire army and people at once and take over Geralt's world. The white frost was explained many times in the game and why Ciri was the only one who could stop it so if you did not pay attention then read the wiki or something.