is ciri gay ?

[UnderWorldPapi]

form a main quest

[Gold♥Shield]

I'm so confused as to why the sexual orientation of pixels is this enthralling to people. It's a fictional video game character set in a world where same-sex relations is normal (Phillipa for example).

[Bite]

Originally posted by Gold♥Shield:

I'm so confused as to why the sexual orientation of pixels is this enthralling to people. It's a fictional video game character set in a world where same-sex relations is normal (Phillipa for example).

It's not normal per se. Ironically, women seem to get a free pass with their sexuality in Geralt's world, while men are looked down as monsters if they choose homosexuality.

I think sexuality in and of itself defines the way many relationships carry on in a certain character's life, hence defining a portion of that character's life. As such, I don't think there's anything wrong with talking about the sexual orientation of any given chracter, a gay Geralt would surely paint a wildly different picture in the whole story, and as such, Ciri's homosexuality has a huge background in the novels to the point where her first "out of the closet" encounter marks the end of one of the novels.

[Y Ddraig Ddu]

Originally posted by Bite:

It's not normal per se. Ironically, women seem to get a free pass with their sexuality in Geralt's world, while men are looked down as monsters if they choose homosexuality.

That's a really salient point. It's especially bizarre considering Sapkowski and CDP-R's world of the Witcher both seem to pride themselves on being semi-realistic fantasy settings grounded more in medieval history than fantastical whimsy, yet homosexuality among men was seen as much less aberrant than homosexuality among women during the middle ages and before. Really, it's only in very recent years (largely with the advent of readily available pornography) that "lesbomancy" was seen as hawt.

I didn't like how BioWare did the personal quest for Dorian (although Dorian was a great character), but it really was no less awkwardly handled than TW3's approach to the subject either. Same with the gay dude in ME3. Video games have a ways to go still as far as integrating gay people properly into them. Sapkowski too, it'd seem.

[M2B]

CDPR has given you the free will to decide for yourself. Lore wise, she's had feelings for multiple men. Most notably, Sir Galahad. She's also had feelings for a women. Specifically, a young woman named Mistle. There are arguements from all sides debating whether she's lesbian, bi, bi-curious, or straight. However, none of that matters since you get to decide for yourself during that bath scene. You get to decide whether it she thinks her past with Mistle was foolish and a result of a situation forced upon her, or if she genuinly had feelings for her. You get the final say in determining if she's lesbian, bi, or straight.

[bukkie661]

On that note though, I can totally see Geralt and Olgiert getting it on. I mean, Geralt got Olgiert's sabre. I mean. Oh well. Ruined it.

[bukkie661]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

Wall of text crits me for 40.000HP

Well played.
BTW...
Didn't read any of that.

[King Yuri]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

Originally posted by SaltedQuailEggs:

CDPR has given you the free will to decide for yourself. Lore wise, she's had feelings for multiple men. Most notably, Sir Galahad. She's also had feelings for a women. Specifically, a young woman named Mistle. There are arguements from all sides debating whether she's lesbian, bi, bi-curious, or straight. However, none of that matters since you get to decide for yourself during that bath scene. You get to decide whether it she thinks her past with Mistle was foolish and a result of a situation forced upon her, or if she genuinly had feelings for her. You get the final say in determining if she's lesbian, bi, or straight.

Or if she's merely saying something to someone to basically slam the door on any thoughts of trying to pair her up with some love-sick teen when she's got way bigger fish to fry, like saving the world from the White Frost and maybe, oh I don't know, NOT getting them all killed by bringing the Wild Hunt down on them?

Jeez, they just met her, rescued her and are trying to restore her health and here's this busybody girl trying to tell her about her brother who's got a huge crush on her.

I was at this party with my girlfriend once and a similar thing happened. The girl in question did not know we were together and she was relentlessly trying to hook my GF with her brother. As I passed near her on my way to the kitchen I heard my GF tell her that she was sorry but she liked girls and not guys. The girl was crushed as she'd thought my GF was the perfect match for her brother. Sometimes women lie.

I remember back when I was at college, they had a meeting at the Student Union building. There had been a rash of rapes and near rapes near the college and they were offering advice and counsel to the girls there. A classmate told me that she'd been advised to tell a would-be attacker that she was a lesbian, that it might turn the guy off long enough for her to attempt an escape.

Look, it's a game and simply having your character tell someone she's gay when that person is trying to hook you up with someone you're not interested in, isn't CDPR's way of coming out of the closet. It may be. But it also may not.

And having the books constantly act as canon for a series of games that decided to distance themselves from those same books and base themselves loosely on that material, it's kind of counterproductive to make assumptions when the devs create multiple options for the player's decisions.

Ultimately whether she's really gay, bi or straight isn't for us to decide since it has zero bearing on the game or its outcome.

Having her be straight makes the most logical sense since if you play it out that way, her "relationship" with Skjall seems much more poignant. If she were a lesbian, I doubt she woudl have felt the same upon learning of his death and broke him to that end. Yes, she might still feel responsible for what happened to him and the others in Lofoten, but there was an undeniable connection there between them that went beyond merely meeting the young man and then just brushing it off as, well, he's just not "her type."

Having her be a lesbian would just come out of left field in that situation. CDPR has always been wont to not rely on the books for all of their base lore for the games since they wanted to move past it and contribute their own spin on the past history.

Cir was badly treated, beaten and raped in The Swallow's Tower. Most hard-core Witcher fans who have read the books would be aware of that history, as well as Ciri's involvement with Mistle. An yet there was absolutely no hint of it anywhere in the game. Skjall was introduced as a young, shy guy who'd found Avallac'h and Ciri and brought them to his home where he, his sister and mother could help them. Instant crush time, young, pretty girl left in his care as he sat by her bed watching her sleep.

Ciri could have been creeped out by the whole thing. She could her bruskly rebuffed the sister for revealing her brother's crush and slammed the door on the whole thing by stating that she's a lesbian. But it's hardly the sort of thing someone who finds themselves in the hands of strangers is wont to do. She's kind of been there before. Rescued by strangers and all of a sudden finding herself at their mercy. Luckily for Ciri, this time these were decent folks who genuinely wanted to help and nothing more. Would she just blurt out that she's a lesbian? I don't think so. It would seem awkward and somewhat rude in my opinion.

On the other hand, Skjall's crush is hard to miss and it's so innocent, it's sweet. Ciri seemed touched by it. If you played it out rather than harping on the "gay" thing, the moment they get to share in the barn with the horses before the attack on the village seems heartfelt and real. Here's a boy who's never even kissed a girl and Ciri happily plants one on him. It didn't seem like a lesbian offering a pity kiss to a boy. It seemed innocent and kind and if they Wild Hunt hadn't appeared, she definitely appeared to be more than willing to go beyond just that kiss for his sake. That's where those who argue that she must be bi come in and somehow I have to at least admit that their case is way stronger than those who'd like to have her be 100% gay.

Removing the books from the equation, there's nothing to suggest that Ciri is gay or bi from her interations with Skjall. Tossing the books back in, there's plenty to support that Ciri has had far more experience and pleasure with men than with women as Mistle was her sole female dalliance while she's known several different men and has had some genuine affection for some of them.

Even with the Wild Hunt, and their plans to have her mate with their kng so they could gain access to the child produced from that pairing, Ciri found herself sexually attracted to Eredin of all people. How many lesbians would do that?

i suppose if she got her own game we would have to see

to me, it makes sense that she is bi, i mean that way, the player can decide without making full judgement, think about it. what if the man who saved her was a women, would she react diffrently, we dont that she is straight because we have only seen her react romantically if one person and he happens to be a male.

[Venomlaced]

Originally posted by Lil $now:

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She says she prefers women and in another line, she is also interested in men. I think she might, therefore, be bisexual. Maybe they will get Halsey to play Ciri in the movie, that would rock.

[v0]

seems winter's indeed coming. some people got craving for pickled thread today :)

[bukkie661]

Originally posted by v0:

seems winter's indeed coming. some people got craving for pickled thread today :)

Yeah, it's that time of the year. It's nice though, because it reminds me which threads I should unsub from. Like this one.

[fantastictuna]

1990's kids - omg look at these graphics!
2000's kids - we can play online? sweet!
2017 kids - we want this character to be gay!

our generation is a 24/7 rolling festival of cringe