Salma the Succubus, possible endings?

[Funk]

Just encountered Salma and chose to kill her. wondering if this will have repercussions and if i had spared her things might have been different? Anybody experienced the possibilities?

[TooTall1]

Originally posted by taz103{UK!}:

i let witcher 3 succubi salma live!......now where am i gonna get a succabi mutagen from now!?

I believe there is one you meet in the middle of nowhere doing Gremists Quest that unlocks his inventory for sale. You have a wayward apprentice that is under her influence, I popped her and got one....

[AzureTheGamerKobold]

Succubus never kill unless provoked she didnt attack those men they attacked her, if you've played the series through that is pretty clear from the outset, that said ONE quest where you can use your letting her live to give you some leverage but over all its just a side quest and hardly worth noting. Is no down to killing her but you will miss the mutagen but it wasnt high on my list of stuff to grab anyway.

[***]

I like her, too bad can't bang her

[puffspluslotion]

I have a slight problem with her story. She says she was ambushed and killed the guards in self defense but the medic/coroner's description suggested they were killed through life-draining sex. I don't quite see how that could have been self-defense.

[Eat Mor Sandvich]

How about this as a repercussion, if you kill both the succubi you encounter prior to Bald Mountain it triggers all the succubi on Bald Mountain to be hostile.

[Спартак здесь?]

guys whats the point of letting her live if u cant bang her in future?

[Valeek]

Originally posted by BuzzardBee:

Think of it this way: you only need the Succubus Decoction if you're actually fighting a succubus and considering you have the option to let both of them live -- what use is the decoction then??

actually, the succubus decoction is this effect Attack Power grows over the course of a fight until reaching a maximum threshold. which is a very good effect.

[phadin]

Originally posted by Dead2Rights:

Originally posted by Fear2288:

However in the Witcher world they're actually rather benevolent, sentient creatures who just wanna boink all day and sometimes, like in Salma's case, one or more of those men can succumb to the rigorous physical toll which doing nothing but having sex all-day, every day can take.

They're not really benevolent, they're more like a symbiotic parasite. I mean, they don't really have people's best interests at heart or help out of altruism (like a Godling or other guardian spirit might). They just want to get it on. True, she did warn that old guy that it could kill him, but she went and did it anyway. A benevolent creature wouldn't have done it in the first place.

I think it's fair to say that they're not immoral like an evil creature would be, but they are definately amoral - that is to say, they don't really recognize or live by a sense of morality. They just like sexy time.

Honestly, I think our version of morality got tossed out the window long ago. I mean, armys on the march have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ set up in tents in or just outside their camp so their soldiers can get it on away from home. (example: Henselt's camp in Witcher 2.) Brothals operate with no oposition from political or reiligious institutions... and in some cases even support. (Carman the madam in Vizima was dating the city guard captain in Witcher 1, with no conflict of interest between their jobs.) It's safe to say we can't view this world through the same moral lens we view our own.

[Xelian]

When confronted with monsters like that I follow Geralt's code. If it intelligent I don't kill it. Also the succubus bestiary entry suggest that they don't usually kill. They just want to get ploughed :D

[jamesgjt]

Originally posted by Cadd:

Just encountered Salma and chose to kill her. wondering if this will have repercussions and if i had spared her things might have been different? Anybody experienced the possibilities?

Spare Salma will save your time, She will give u the proof (for getting ur reward) as well as her reward (a relic sword). Later in the game also will be benefit in the quest : "Skellige's Most Wanted" (the villager will give u this quest and at the end, a troll, godling, doppler(the villager), and a werewolve will question you and seek revenge on you killing so many monsters. But then upon sparing Salma and other monsters such as trolls, you will be able to convince other 2 monsters (troll and doppler) not to fight with you. So at the end, you will only need to fight the werewolf.

The other succubus I encountered (so far only 2 for me) is totally peaceful, she just collect flowers to decorate her hideout and she will agree to give you the flowers and lead you to her hideout if you choose to side with her. Save both of ur time and less trouble.

According the your handbook, Succubus in this game is not aggressive and it doesn't kill human whenever they want.... only do if they need to. Just think them as godling.

[ErikG96]

Sorry for necroing the thread, but I'm currently replaying the game. ^^
There is one important thing to remember here:
It is stated to be a "string of killings".
Not a single, one-time massacre, but a string.

In other words the guardsmen weren't killed all at once.
She says she acted in self-defense, but how does this make sense if there were several killings and at different times...?
This in turn means she has killed more than once, and seemingly entirely of her free will (or possibly from sex-induced hunger).

The guards had no claw slashes, but scratches from nails.
This sounds more like something of a sexual nature than combat; Salma would have no need to use her nails if she was fighting them off - Succubi have super-human strength.
The bodies were also said to have been "desiccated" (having had all moisture removed).
So Salma drained them dry, post-mortem.

Conclusion:
Unlike the other Succubus that you meet in Skellige, Salma is flat out lying.
I killed her.

[Fess]

Originally posted by Dead2Rights:

Originally posted by Fear2288:

However in the Witcher world they're actually rather benevolent, sentient creatures who just wanna boink all day and sometimes, like in Salma's case, one or more of those men can succumb to the rigorous physical toll which doing nothing but having sex all-day, every day can take.

They're not really benevolent, they're more like a symbiotic parasite. I mean, they don't really have people's best interests at heart or help out of altruism (like a Godling or other guardian spirit might). They just want to get it on. True, she did warn that old guy that it could kill him, but she went and did it anyway. A benevolent creature wouldn't have done it in the first place.

I think it's fair to say that they're not immoral like an evil creature would be, but they are definately amoral - that is to say, they don't really recognize or live by a sense of morality. They just like sexy time.

Correction, they don't live by YOUR morality. Nothing immoral in two* consenting people doing stuff that may kill them if no one else is hurt.

[Funk]

I take it you're here 5yrs later because you watched the series?

[cst1992]

Originally posted by ErikG96:

Sorry for necroing the thread, but I'm currently replaying the game. ^^
There is one important thing to remember here:
It is stated to be a "string of killings".
Not a single, one-time massacre, but a string.

In other words the guardsmen weren't killed all at once.
She says she acted in self-defense, but how does this make sense if there were several killings and at different times...?
This in turn means she has killed more than once, and seemingly entirely of her free will (or possibly from sex-induced hunger).

The guards had no claw slashes, but scratches from nails.
This sounds more like something of a sexual nature than combat; Salma would have no need to use her nails if she was fighting them off - Succubi have super-human strength.
The bodies were also said to have been "desiccated" (having had all moisture removed).
So Salma drained them dry, post-mortem.

Conclusion:
Unlike the other Succubus that you meet in Skellige, Salma is flat out lying.
I killed her.

Agree with this analysis.

So, in retrospect when I just now chose to ask her to leave the city, I find this thread and that gets me wondering:

1. Self-defense? What'd cause the desiccated(not burnt to a crisp if she'd used a fire attack) bodies of the guards with nail marks?
2. What about that guy outside of the house? That also in self defense? Lucky that that guy even is alive.
3. "I don't kill without reason" Wrong. She did kill the guards without reason. Based on her attacks on Geralt, it doesn't seem like those guards were killed in self-defense.
4. "I'm furious with you" why? That's guilt-tripping right there.
Plus, she says all the things that one would if one wanted to get out of the situation unscathed. She even gives Geralt a trophy - meaning she's just eager to get out of there.

Conclusion: She's tricking Geralt. Kill her and be done with it.

[Valden21]

Originally posted by cst1992:

Originally posted by ErikG96:

Sorry for necroing the thread, but I'm currently replaying the game. ^^
There is one important thing to remember here:
It is stated to be a "string of killings".
Not a single, one-time massacre, but a string.

In other words the guardsmen weren't killed all at once.
She says she acted in self-defense, but how does this make sense if there were several killings and at different times...?
This in turn means she has killed more than once, and seemingly entirely of her free will (or possibly from sex-induced hunger).

The guards had no claw slashes, but scratches from nails.
This sounds more like something of a sexual nature than combat; Salma would have no need to use her nails if she was fighting them off - Succubi have super-human strength.
The bodies were also said to have been "desiccated" (having had all moisture removed).
So Salma drained them dry, post-mortem.

Conclusion:
Unlike the other Succubus that you meet in Skellige, Salma is flat out lying.
I killed her.

Agree with this analysis.

So, in retrospect when I just now chose to ask her to leave the city, I find this thread and that gets me wondering:

1. Self-defense? What'd cause the desiccated(not burnt to a crisp if she'd used a fire attack) bodies of the guards with nail marks?
2. What about that guy outside of the house? That also in self defense? Lucky that that guy even is alive.
3. "I don't kill without reason" Wrong. She did kill the guards without reason. Based on her attacks on Geralt, it doesn't seem like those guards were killed in self-defense.
4. "I'm furious with you" why? That's guilt-tripping right there.
Plus, she says all the things that one would if one wanted to get out of the situation unscathed. She even gives Geralt a trophy - meaning she's just eager to get out of there.

Conclusion: She's tricking Geralt. Kill her and be done with it.

This analysis doesn't make sense to me.

Here's my take:
1) The dessication was due to a different event, and it was most likely because Salma was really hungry and needed to feed. I don't think she actually meant to kill the guards who were found with nail scratches on their backs, and that she just lost control.
2) That guy outside the house is coming there of his own free will. He knows it's likely to kill him, but judging from his dialogue, he doesn't seem to care. Soon as he gets his breath back, he's going to head on up to her room, so whatever happens to him is all on him.
3) She needs to feed on humans in order to survive, so she doesn't really want to kill them unless she has to do so, and self-defense is one of the circumstances that would require her to kill. Think about it; if she killed without reason, that just means the guards would arrive all the sooner, because they would notice. She fully understands that.
4) She's being irrational, but she KNOWS that she's being irrational, and she acknowledges that.