PC review embargo.....Trouble Ahead?

[Warlord]

http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/35751-Reviews-prior-to-release-only-for-PS4-no-PC-or-Xbox-this-week

Wow. Apparently CD Projekt does not want the PC version to be reviewed before launch. The game went gold a month ago. "Optimization" claims are completely bunk. You don't optimize a game after it's gone gold.

Troubling signs?

Why no PC footage?

[Mephz]

Morgan님이 먼저 게시:

WiS.님이 먼저 게시:

This.

If it turns out ♥♥♥♥, it turns out ♥♥♥♥. In the end we chose to pre-purchase it and we only have ourselves to blame. I'm not going to start crying now or then, because it's my own choice. If those of you complaining are that bothered by it; don't pre-purchase - and if you haven't pre-purchase, why the hell are you complaining?

Because every review embargo is one more step on the bad road of an industry that is becoming increasingly anti-consumer. Back in the day game reviews were typically in print the month before a game came out. It will most likely turn out that in this case worries are unfounded. However it’s one more game with a day one review embargo. I agree that people should make the sensible choice and not pre-order but with pre-order incentives things become more complex.

Not really, pre-order incentives don't make the choice any more complex for most gamers. Sure there are few that can't avoid clicking buy on every single preorder deal that pops up but the majority don't buy into it. Witcher 3 to me did not really have any great pre-order bonuses, except for maybe the music which is nice to have and the discount from the previous games. However I'd save more money if I waited for few years like I normally do with games (I bought witcher 2 for 10 dollars, skyrim legendary edition for 10 dollars, witcher 1 for 2 dollars, just cause 2 for 2 dollars and so on).

I'm however ignoring those games that overstep, such as evolve, mortal kombat and a few other good examples of dlc and preorders going nuts. If most consumers did the same it would not be a problem but I don't really care if someone that buys into that garbage ends up with garbage in their hands.

This here is the first game I have ever pre-ordered and probably the only one I will. Main reason is that I felt like paying for this game on release because of how cheap I've bought the previous two games for (total of 12 dollars, 2 and 10) and I wanted to support this particular developer. So far the developer has not done anything I deem bad or broken my trust in anyway (yes even with all the trolling going around in this place, ridiculous claims with no sources and screenshots that prove nothing. Amazing how little effect it has, I wonder why).

[wis]

Morgan님이 먼저 게시:

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The difference is that CDPR didn't put an embargo on every platform, which suggests they are still working out the kinks but should have it ready for other platforms by release in the form of the first day patch.

They have given us no reason to doubt them and the PS4 version has received excellent reviews, so I trust that the PC version will work perfectly fine.

The pre-order incentives aren't really that great to be fair, aside from the 10% discount.

There can be substantial differences between planforms though, especially when it comes to performance. I to have a good level for trust for CDPR (I’ve got the disc version on pre-order still), however people also used to have a lot of Faith in Egosoft before XRebirth came out. I’m not saying that CDPR are conning us. However I can understand why some people are nervous and I stand by my statement about this industry in general.

I know there can be differences in performance - that's what I meant by "working out the kinks". But the base game remains the same and I trust that their embargo is due to last minute optimisation in preparation for the first day patch.

I am well aware of Ubish1t, but CDPR has given me no reason not to trust them - I'm taking the risk by pre-purchasing, and I am ready for anything.

Those people that are nervous should save their money and cancel their pre-purchase and stop complaining until the game is actually released, because we won't know until then and this speculation is doing nothing right now.

[Morgan]

Mephz님이 먼저 게시:

Not really, pre-order incentives don't make the choice any more complex for most gamers. Sure there are few that can't avoid clicking buy on every single preorder deal that pops up but the majority don't buy into it. Witcher 3 to me did not really have any great pre-order bonuses, except for maybe the music which is nice to have and the discount from the previous games. However I'd save more money if I waited for few years like I normally do with games (I bought witcher 2 for 10 dollars, skyrim legendary edition for 10 dollars, witcher 1 for 2 dollars, just cause 2 for 2 dollars and so on).

I'm however ignoring those games that overstep, such as evolve, mortal kombat and a few other good examples of dlc and preorders going nuts. If most consumers did the same it would not be a problem but I don't really care if someone that buys into that garbage ends up with garbage in their hands.

This here is the first game I have ever pre-ordered and probably the only one I will. Main reason is that I felt like paying for this game on release because of how cheap I've bought the previous two games for (total of 12 dollars, 2 and 10) and I wanted to support this particular developer. So far the developer has not done anything I deem bad or broken my trust in anyway (yes even with all the trolling going around in this place, ridiculous claims with no sources and screenshots that prove nothing. Amazing how little effect it has, I wonder why).

Of course it makes the concept more complex. Both from a cost/risk point of view for the customer and a moral point of view for the publisher.

[Ai Dings]

As i see this, this will be a good Game, Awsome tbh.
Ps Version runs so good,..from what we hear...

[Morgan]

WiS.님이 먼저 게시:

Those people that are nervous should save their money and cancel their pre-purchase and stop complaining until the game is actually released, because we won't know until then and this speculation is doing nothing right now.

Why should they not complain? The embargo means that people who are worried will end up paying £10 for the steam copy of game in the UK. I’m not complaining myself but I can see people’s point of view.

[wis]

Morgan님이 먼저 게시:

WiS.님이 먼저 게시:

Those people that are nervous should save their money and cancel their pre-purchase and stop complaining until the game is actually released, because we won't know until then and this speculation is doing nothing right now.

Why should they not complain? The embargo means that people who are worried will end up paying £10 for the steam copy of game in the UK. I’m not complaining myself but I can see people’s point of view.

So, they will have to pay base price? Big deal, it's their choice to make.

[Mephz]

Not really when holding off from paying for a preorder is both less risky and more cost effective. Plus the best way to get value in this day and age is to wait for a "game of the year" edition or something of the sort with everything included few years down the line. That's usually how I do it these days, pick up games a few years later on the cheap and laugh at people paying 60 dollars for a video game when I usually pay around 1/6 of that price for the same game with everything included.

The only way paying on launch or preordering is better is for the fact that you get it right now possibly with some extra features which seems to be impossible to resist for a portion of the video game community.

[Morgan]

WiS.님이 먼저 게시:

Morgan님이 먼저 게시:

Why should they not complain? The embargo means that people who are worried will end up paying £10 for the steam copy of game in the UK. I’m not complaining myself but I can see people’s point of view.

So, they will have to pay base price? Big deal, it's their choice to make.

I didn’t say it was a big deal. I said that people aren’t being unreasonable. I’m not sure why some posters here are so touchy about any criticism of the game or developer.

[Morgan]

Mephz님이 먼저 게시:

Not really when holding off from paying for a preorder is both less risky and more cost effective. Plus the best way to get value in this day and age is to wait for a "game of the year" edition or something of the sort with everything included few years down the line. That's usually how I do it these days, pick up games a few years later on the cheap and laugh at people paying 60 dollars for a video game when I usually pay around 1/6 of that price for the same game with everything included.

The only way paying on launch or preordering is better is for the fact that you get it right now possibly with some extra features which seems to be impossible to resist for a portion of the video game community.

Bit of a strawman argument there mate.

[FullMetalPanic]

Outlets are able to review the game before release so all is well in my book. Are you doubtful? Then wait till after release.

[wis]

Mephz님이 먼저 게시:

Plus the best way to get value in this day and age is to wait for a "game of the year" edition or something of the sort

Yeah, that's what I usually do. I have so many games to play that it's more cost effective to wait than to buy games at release.

The Witcher games and books are some of my favourite though and CDPR will hopefully release an enhanced version for free like they did with TW1 and TW2, so I don't see pre-purchasing as losing out - plus they've been a good dev so far, so I'd happily take the risk and if it ends up being a mess, it's on me.

[wis]

Morgan님이 먼저 게시:

WiS.님이 먼저 게시:

So, they will have to pay base price? Big deal, it's their choice to make.

I didn’t say it was a big deal. I said that people aren’t being unreasonable. I’m not sure why some posters here are so touchy about any criticism of the game or developer.

Because the power is in the hands of the consumer.

[Morgan]

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Morgan님이 먼저 게시:

I didn’t say it was a big deal. I said that people aren’t being unreasonable. I’m not sure why some posters here are so touchy about any criticism of the game or developer.

Because the power is in the hands of the consumer.

Some is and some isn’t.

[wis]

Morgan님이 먼저 게시:

WiS.님이 먼저 게시:

Because the power is in the hands of the consumer.

Some is and some isn’t.

It always is. Stop acting like they're not in control of their money - I could cancel my pre-purchase right now.

[WolfEisberg]

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Mephz님이 먼저 게시:

Plus the best way to get value in this day and age is to wait for a "game of the year" edition or something of the sort

Yeah, that's what I usually do. I have so many games to play that it's more cost effective to wait than to buy games at release.

The Witcher games and books are some of my favourite though and CDPR will hopefully release an enhanced version for free like they did with TW1 and TW2, so I don't see pre-purchasing as losing out - plus they've been a good dev so far, so I'd happily take the risk and if it ends up being a mess, it's on me.

yup, I am the same way. 99% of my games I buy are more than a year old. Shadow of Mordor was my game last year that I really wanted and pre-ordered it, didn't regret that one at all.
Witcher 3 is this years new game for me, everything else will be more than a year old.