For those who say you need a 4090

[The_Barronator]

Ok so I have I guess you could say a top of the line PC:

ASUS Rog Strix Z790 Hero Motherboard
Intel Core i9 13900k
64 GB DDR5 RAM
RTX 4090
All watercooled and with a giant PSU

Now, I'm not sure what I am supposed to expect, but I run everything max at 2k on a 144hz monitor. When I am maxing out Callisto Protocol I get 120-144fps. Metro Exodus on ray tracing extreme, 144fps. The PC kicks ass and eats just about everything for breakfast.

BUT

Running this game with this new update on RTUltra+ with everything maxed completely the hell out and all DLSS type tech turned off to have native 2k res: I get like 70-90FPS. Nothing crazy, and I absolutely CANNOT push 100fps. My GPU also goes up to 70 degrees watercooled if I don't cap the frames to 60, which I know is not hot....but consider that that is quite warm for watercooling. That basically means it'd be in the 90s if it was fan cooled.

SO....yeah this is either brutal optimization....or honestly it's just as difficult to run as Cyberpunk 2077 is now. Now 70-90fps....that's totally playable, but I have a 4090...so you're telling me my buddies with 3000 series cards are gonna struggle to get 60fps?

Dayum.....just saying.....dayum....what is this a benchmark game now?

[Seizure Storm]

RT was always gonna send the game to the shadow realm performance wise.

[StingJnr]

im using a 3080ti 5800x3d 32gb of ram. I get 50 to 60 fps with ultra RT with shadows turned to low and nvidia hair off with my dlss turned to balance. Soon as i turn off RT my fps boosts right up ! not sure what the issue is with this game.

[StingJnr]

Originally posted by StingJnr:

im using a 3080ti 5800x3d 32gb of ram. I get 50 to 60 fps with ultra RT with shadows turned to low and nvidia hair off with my dlss turned to balance. Soon as i turn off RT my fps boosts right up ! not sure what the issue is with this game.

Tell a lie i managed to get around 70 fps in one of the towns early game with those settings

[Emanouche]

The only people having trouble running this on 3000 series GPU are people who uses RTX... I haven't benchmarked the game, but I can tell when I'm going 50 fps and above, and this game is buttery smooth with Ultra+ RTX turned off on my 3060.

[NeoOne]

Nah....here is my setting. RTX 3080 12 GB. Using DLSS at balance setting. 4k. Everything is Ultra+. Only enabled RTX global illumination. The rest is off. I enabled Nivida Reflex "something" and it does reduce the stuttering significantly.

99% GPU usage all the time. I undervolted my 3080 but max wattage tops at 340w constantly, in a straight line. If you OC your GPU or undervolted too much voltage, the game will crash because it is maxing out your GPU performance.

[morness]

I have the same spec PC except 128GB DDR5-5600. I'm getting 110-120Hz at 4K Ultra+ on a 120Hz HDR display, but I am using DLSS quality (which is indistinguishable from turning off DLSS other than the drop in frame rate). It's fine and I'm pushing double the pixels. My stock air cooled TUF OC 4090 is topping out at 62C. Nothing is overclocked. Smooth as a dream.

This game engine is old tech, pre-dating RTX entirely. I'm enjoying it, I've heard some folks are having problems with perf.

You may want to double check you have everything seated properly. Your GPU shouldn't be getting that hot.

The CPU is barely utilized at 23%.

The only strange issues I've encountered is the map seems to be frame rate limited to 30 even though it registers at 120, perhaps a scrolling bug. The inventory screen is also strange, with Geralt looking like he's oddly dithered.

[Excal]

I mean if you want to run it well with RTX on then yes a 4090 is good. I would upgrade my gpu from a 3070 because RTX in this game is too good to pass up. But it loses like 60 frames from it

[The_Barronator]

Originally posted by morness:

I have the same spec PC except 128GB DDR5-5600. I'm getting 110-120Hz at 4K Ultra+ on a 120Hz HDR display, but I am using DLSS quality (which is indistinguishable from turning off DLSS other than the drop in frame rate). It's fine and I'm pushing double the pixels. My stock air cooled TUF OC 4090 is topping out at 62C. Nothing is overclocked. Smooth as a dream.

This game engine is old tech, pre-dating RTX entirely. I'm enjoying it, I've heard some folks are having problems with perf.

You may want to double check you have everything seated properly. Your GPU shouldn't be getting that hot.

The CPU is barely utilized at 23%.

The only strange issues I've encountered is the map seems to be frame rate limited to 30 even though it registers at 120, perhaps a scrolling bug. The inventory screen is also strange, with Geralt looking like he's oddly dithered.

Everything is seated correctly as far as I can tell, but CPU and GPU are 55-65 degrees most new games with RT on at native 2k with no DLSS. They run hot naturally unfortunately. The i9 13th gen is ridiculous I saw reviews saying you pretty much NEED an AIO cooler or else it apparently games at 80-90 degrees for most people on a new game. Doesn't even start to throttle until 100 degrees. 4090 apparently if it's not liquid cooled you gotta put up with the same ♥♥♥♥. These newer parts run hot and pull wattage, that's why I was adamant about liquid cooling.

Very likely DLSS is saving you from those temps and giving you the frame boost. That and your NASA sized RAM haha

[Crix]

The optimization is terrible you can go watch several YT videos about it. Also CDPR of course knew this and said 'we are working on it' and still released the next gen update anyways.

So in a year this will be worth coming back to.

[NeoOne]

I don't why people are getting upset. I have near 300 hours in the game including all the expansions and I am not planning to replay it even with the update. I think I stopped playing it on my second run + game. The update is free.

[Vertex]

srtgi was less taxing and rtx in general shouldn't be taxing at all. the fact that they increased the res to 4k with the mods and upped their own render distance and particles for grass by a few notches is hands down the single most taxing thing. rtx shouldn't really be used when gaming either. but regardless im no longer defending cpdr, this update alone was another rushed to ♥♥♥♥ thing, to a point where most of us crash 10 times in under 30 mins

[Vertex]

Originally posted by The_Barronator:

Originally posted by morness:

I have the same spec PC except 128GB DDR5-5600. I'm getting 110-120Hz at 4K Ultra+ on a 120Hz HDR display, but I am using DLSS quality (which is indistinguishable from turning off DLSS other than the drop in frame rate). It's fine and I'm pushing double the pixels. My stock air cooled TUF OC 4090 is topping out at 62C. Nothing is overclocked. Smooth as a dream.

This game engine is old tech, pre-dating RTX entirely. I'm enjoying it, I've heard some folks are having problems with perf.

You may want to double check you have everything seated properly. Your GPU shouldn't be getting that hot.

The CPU is barely utilized at 23%.

The only strange issues I've encountered is the map seems to be frame rate limited to 30 even though it registers at 120, perhaps a scrolling bug. The inventory screen is also strange, with Geralt looking like he's oddly dithered.

Everything is seated correctly as far as I can tell, but CPU and GPU are 55-65 degrees most new games with RT on at native 2k with no DLSS. They run hot naturally unfortunately. The i9 13th gen is ridiculous I saw reviews saying you pretty much NEED an AIO cooler or else it apparently games at 80-90 degrees for most people on a new game. Doesn't even start to throttle until 100 degrees. 4090 apparently if it's not liquid cooled you gotta put up with the same ♥♥♥♥. These newer parts run hot and pull wattage, that's why I was adamant about liquid cooling.

Very likely DLSS is saving you from those temps and giving you the frame boost. That and your NASA sized RAM haha

my stock 4090 sits at around 50 when gaming ? on air

[Vertex]

Originally posted by iTzVertex:

Originally posted by The_Barronator:

Everything is seated correctly as far as I can tell, but CPU and GPU are 55-65 degrees most new games with RT on at native 2k with no DLSS. They run hot naturally unfortunately. The i9 13th gen is ridiculous I saw reviews saying you pretty much NEED an AIO cooler or else it apparently games at 80-90 degrees for most people on a new game. Doesn't even start to throttle until 100 degrees. 4090 apparently if it's not liquid cooled you gotta put up with the same ♥♥♥♥. These newer parts run hot and pull wattage, that's why I was adamant about liquid cooling.

Very likely DLSS is saving you from those temps and giving you the frame boost. That and your NASA sized RAM haha

my stock 4090 sits at around 50 when gaming ? on air

moddle being Gigabyte AORUS GeForce RTX 4090 Master with fans just set to 25%

[pillowcase]

Originally posted by morness:

I have the same spec PC except 128GB DDR5-5600. I'm getting 110-120Hz at 4K Ultra+ on a 120Hz HDR display, but I am using DLSS quality (which is indistinguishable from turning off DLSS other than the drop in frame rate). It's fine and I'm pushing double the pixels. My stock air cooled TUF OC 4090 is topping out at 62C. Nothing is overclocked. Smooth as a dream.

This game engine is old tech, pre-dating RTX entirely. I'm enjoying it, I've heard some folks are having problems with perf.

You may want to double check you have everything seated properly. Your GPU shouldn't be getting that hot.

The CPU is barely utilized at 23%.

The only strange issues I've encountered is the map seems to be frame rate limited to 30 even though it registers at 120, perhaps a scrolling bug. The inventory screen is also strange, with Geralt looking like he's oddly dithered.

Weird, same system except ddr5 6600mhz and RT all options on, ultra +, and TAAU, native 4K, Nvidia overlay says the 99% fps is like 27. It’s using 98% of my GPU and like 5-13% of the CPU. If I turn off RT it only uses 60% of the GPU and the same percentage of the CPU. Really weird, it’s jittery too. Basically unplayable, even with dlss quality the 99% fps is like 30 to maybe 40 or so and I’m by the Velen area near oxenfort.

If I use just RT global illumination and dlss it becomes more playable around the high 40’s and high 50’s depending on the area.

My card is a gigabyte gaming oc and in this game it doesn’t go past 62C. In other games it’s less. I can run Callisto protocol 60-80fps at 4K with fsr 2 and all my other games run fine.

I’m not using frame generation though.

[aseinsha]

I don't understand why people think their GPU temp going up and their GPU being fully utilized is an indication of bad optimization...