Where is the lore that women can / can't be witchers?

[Morsk]

edit: I didn't expect the thread to keep going.

edit2: Omg 8 pages, just stop! I wanted 1-2 lore examples, and thought there might be 1 page of bickering, not this. If I wanted icons I would do a better job than this thread!

My understanding from Triss in Blood of Elves was NO ONE KNOWS what early witcher training does to girls, implying no one has done later training on girls at all, and no one knows if they can survive it or not. As a reader I though this was to create suspense over whether Ciri would be the first. Ciri being the first, eventually, seems normal storytelling to me.

This was mainly a question about the community. I knew why some people were saying there are already woman Witchers in School of the Cat: fanfiction and a tabletop RPG. But I didn't understand why other people were convinced of the opposite: not that woman witchers don't exist yet, but that they're impossible. I wanted to know where this came from.

[LtLost]

Triss makes them stop giving herbals to Ciri to preserve her womanly appeal in the future. It turns out to be the right call. In the last book, Ciri clearly likes Sir Galahad. Her womb literally squeezes when looking at him and thinking about the prospect of laying together. It's clear she was going to get her happy ever after and have a family. That she would escape the tragedy of Geralt and Yennefer who wanted a family but could only simulate one in Ciri.

Sterile Witcher Ciri kills that prospect and is just sad.

[Jem]

引用自 FusedSouls：

she VERY much cared about being Geralts daughter and following his footsteps.

And Geralt (and Yennefer, and everybody who cares about her) would be horrified at the thought of her going through the trial of grasses, and becoming a mutant.

Ciri never asked to endure the trial of grasses, nor asked to become a witcher in The Witcher 3. It's Geralt who gave him her sword and dubbed her, that's all.

So Ciri would never do that, she know the pain she would cause to Geralt and Yennefer.

[NovaMew]

yawn same topic again.

[FreshRevenge]

If you watch the trailer, Ciri is wearing the Cat medallion, so it's plausable that she did reach out to the school of the Cat for some of her training and was able to receive the trial without killing her.

At the moment it's impossible to know exactly what angle CDPR are going with it. All we can do is wait until they provide more details.

But given the ending of Witcher 3, she is a witcher since Geralt gave her a silver sword as a gift. Geralt sees her as a Witcher.

[Namethatworks]

引用自 NovaMew：

yawn same topic again.

You not liking it doesn't make it's discussion irrelevant, unfortunately for you.

[Namethatworks]

引用自 FreshRevenge：

If you watch the trailer, Ciri is wearing the Cat medallion, so it's plausable that she did reach out to the school of the Cat for some of her training and was able to receive the trial without killing her.

At the moment it's impossible to know exactly what angle CDPR are going with it. All we can do is wait until they provide more details.

But given the ending of Witcher 3, she is a witcher since Geralt gave her a silver sword as a gift. Geralt sees her as a Witcher.

She stole that amulet off of a corpse of someone that was hunting down Witchers.

[SE[7]EN]

i think the better question here is WHY she became a witcher at first place?
and i think i have the answer for it, you see they gonna introduce a new villain, the said villain is going to kill Geralt, so ciri feels that she needs to pursue her wannabe father
so she became a witcher and in the process she loses her elder blood
and if thats the story they are going for here , then f@ck cdpr

[Namethatworks]

引用自 SE7EN：

i think the better question here is WHY she became a witcher at first place?
and i think i have the answer for it, you see they gonna introduce a new villain, the said villain is going to kill Geralt, so ciri feels that she needs to pursue her wannabe father
so she became a witcher and in the process she loses her elder blood
and if thats the story they are going for here , then f@ck cdpr

So The Last of Us 2.5 fantasy edition... That went so well for them too... oh wait.

[FreshRevenge]

引用自 Namethatworks：

引用自 FreshRevenge：

If you watch the trailer, Ciri is wearing the Cat medallion, so it's plausable that she did reach out to the school of the Cat for some of her training and was able to receive the trial without killing her.

At the moment it's impossible to know exactly what angle CDPR are going with it. All we can do is wait until they provide more details.

But given the ending of Witcher 3, she is a witcher since Geralt gave her a silver sword as a gift. Geralt sees her as a Witcher.

She stole that amulet off of a corpse of someone that was hunting down Witchers.

Hmm is that from the game, I might have missed that conversation. Maybe the potion that she drinks mimicks the effects without her being a true Witcher with the mutations etc. That is huge plot hole if they do decide to ignore it.

[Ogami]

The amulet she is wearing in the trailer is from the "Lynx" school of witchers, a new one that will get introduced in Witcher 4. From the interview with the CD Project Red devs.
The devs also state that Ciri is indeed a full witcher and passed the trials.
How and why will be revealed in the game.

[SE[7]EN]

引用自 FreshRevenge：

引用自 Namethatworks：

She stole that amulet off of a corpse of someone that was hunting down Witchers.

Hmm is that from the game, I might have missed that conversation. Maybe the potion that she drinks mimicks the effects without her being a true Witcher with the mutations etc. That is huge plot hole if they do decide to ignore it.

she IS a witcher here no doubt in that, she has the witcher eyes as well you cant mimic that

[Dr. Feel Good]

From what i recall the female witcher thing was just a convenience thing for the tabletop, so ya that don't count.

But.. i do also know that the original two sorcerers that made the first witcher's gave up on using girls because they all died while 1/2 or 2/3 of the boys died. So they just worked on making it more tailored to men since they were the survivors.

So a woman witcher is maybe a possibility but no one has yet stacked enough little girl bodies to climb up on and find the answer.

Also I'm pretty sure the original reason for what came to be called the trial of the grasses was to give anyone the ability to use magic, seems kinda stupid to take some one who can use magic and make them again into someone who can use magic.

[Hiphoptimus Rhyme]

引用自 NovaMew：

yawn same topic again.

So you don't have a good answer. Noted.

[Inquerion]

引用自 Hiphoptimus Rhyme：

Women can't be Witchers

Source material never said that.
All known attempts at making female Witchers failed though.
But these girls didn't have Elder Blood and special powers like Ciri does.
I have no problem with this if it's well explained in the game.

[Inquerion]

引用自 AsianGirlLover：

Why would she nerf herself to become a witcher???

Maybe in order to...get infertile. Let me explain. Wild Hunt, her father Emperor Emhyr and power hungry Sorceresses were always trying to catch her in order to...breed her. It was said that her Elder Blood offspring would be unstoppable and could destroy the world.
And Witchers are infertile. They can't reproduce.

She also always admired Geralt and his Witcher friends. Kaer Morhen became her home. She wanted to be like them. She hated how her father (Emhyr) treated her. She was not interested in becoming an Empress or a puppet of Sorceresses/Wild Hunt.