In defence of Ciri and The Witcher 4

[Tzyku]

You guys don’t seem to understand the bigger picture. First of all, Ciri is the best protagonist after Geralt because she was central to the story of both the books and The Witcher 3. She’s not some random, super-powered woman thrown in just to have a female protagonist! This is Ciri, Geralt’s adopted daughter! They’ve shared so many incredible experiences and moments that you simply cannot deny how significant she is to the series.

Geralt’s story had a beautiful conclusion. I’m certain that half of the people criticizing haven’t even played the DLCs to see how it all ends. It was stunning. After I carefully displayed all my armor on the stands in Corvo Bianco, I went outside to Yen and soaked in the serene beauty of the Toussaint landscapes one last time.

Personally, I want Geralt to return in The Witcher 4, not as the main protagonist but as a mentor, someone to guide and help the new protagonist alongside Yennefer. I’m confident they’ll appear in some capacity, and I fully support the developers in making that happen.

Now, the complaints about having a new protagonist are even more ridiculous. You clearly don’t realize how vast and rich The Witcher lore is. If you want a shallow, easy-to-understand story, then sure, creating an unknown character might make things simpler. But what makes The Witcher special is its connection to established characters like Geralt, Ciri, and Yennefer. Introducing a generic "no-name" protagonist will naturally lead people to compare them to Geralt, and of course, the new character will fall short in the eyes of fans.

As for those claiming Ciri "isn’t a Witcher because she can’t go through mutations"—you clearly haven’t put in enough hours to understand the lore. Most of you probably skip dialogues and rush through quests, forming half-baked opinions. Let me clarify:

Ciri doesn’t need mutations to become a Witcher. The mutations primarily provide enhanced agility, power, reflexes, and resistance to toxins, allowing Witchers to safely consume potions.
Despite not undergoing mutations, Ciri could still master Witcher skills, including swordsmanship and signs. Signs don’t require mutations, just intense training and focus.
Ciri could even used potions in small doses.
The most important thing is that Ciri has always wanted to be a Witcher. With her heart set on that path, it wouldn’t be surprising if she asked for help from Geralt, Yennefer, and maybe even Avallac’h to explore a way to undergo the mutations safely.

So let’s trust the developers and stop making baseless claims. The Witcher series has always been about deeply connected characters, rich lore, and thoughtful storytelling. Respect the effort that goes into creating this world and its narratives before jumping to conclusions.

Go watch it again if you forget something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnRaWS_ePQ0

[carl]

Originally posted by Tzyku:

You guys don’t seem to understand the bigger picture. First of all, Ciri is the best protagonist after Geralt because she was central to the story of both the books and The Witcher 3. She’s not some random, super-powered woman thrown in just to have a female protagonist! This is Ciri, Geralt’s adopted daughter! They’ve shared so many incredible experiences and moments that you simply cannot deny how significant she is to the series.

Geralt’s story had a beautiful conclusion. I’m certain that half of the people criticizing haven’t even played the DLCs to see how it all ends. It was stunning. After I carefully displayed all my armor on the stands in Corvo Bianco, I went outside to Yen and soaked in the serene beauty of the Toussaint landscapes one last time.

Personally, I want Geralt to return in The Witcher 4, not as the main protagonist but as a mentor, someone to guide and help the new protagonist alongside Yennefer. I’m confident they’ll appear in some capacity, and I fully support the developers in making that happen.

Now, the complaints about having a new protagonist are even more ridiculous. You clearly don’t realize how vast and rich The Witcher lore is. If you want a shallow, easy-to-understand story, then sure, creating an unknown character might make things simpler. But what makes The Witcher special is its connection to established characters like Geralt, Ciri, and Yennefer. Introducing a generic "no-name" protagonist will naturally lead people to compare them to Geralt, and of course, the new character will fall short in the eyes of fans.

As for those claiming Ciri "isn’t a Witcher because she can’t go through mutations"—you clearly haven’t put in enough hours to understand the lore. Most of you probably skip dialogues and rush through quests, forming half-baked opinions. Let me clarify:

Ciri doesn’t need mutations to become a Witcher. The mutations primarily provide enhanced agility, power, reflexes, and resistance to toxins, allowing Witchers to safely consume potions.
Despite not undergoing mutations, Ciri could still master Witcher skills, including swordsmanship and signs. Signs don’t require mutations, just intense training and focus.
Ciri could even used potions in small doses.
The most important thing is that Ciri has always wanted to be a Witcher. With her heart set on that path, it wouldn’t be surprising if she asked for help from Geralt, Yennefer, and maybe even Avallac’h to explore a way to undergo the mutations safely.

So let’s trust the developers and stop making baseless claims. The Witcher series has always been about deeply connected characters, rich lore, and thoughtful storytelling. Respect the effort that goes into creating this world and its narratives before jumping to conclusions.

Go watch it again if you forget something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnRaWS_ePQ0

Truth nuke.

End of the day it only matters if it'll be a good game or not, and not who the protagonist might be. I think they might be able to pull off something really good with Witcher 4. Time will tell, anything else in between is just to waste time.

[DimV9224]

I only have one question for OP. How do you explain the cat eyes?

[Tzyku]

Speculation and debates are part of the hype, but they don’t determine the final product. The developers have a proven track record of crafting immersive worlds and unforgettable characters.

[worm_master]

Havent read the books, or played the other games, so honest question.

WHY cant Ciri become a witcher, by undergoing mutation?

[Growlanser]

Yup. All the people are just making assumptions. Nobody knows if she went through the trials and imo she didn't. She became an honorable witcher in the now canon ending of TW3 and nothing about she undergoing the mutations was ever implied. In fact, it is more than clear to me that she didn't need to.

[Tzyku]

Originally posted by DimV9224:

I only have one question for OP. How do you explain the cat eyes?

As I’ve said, Ciri could have asked for help from Geralt, Yennefer, and perhaps even Avallac’h to undergo the mutations. Technically, it’s possible if someone with the right expertise could help her. A skilled alchemist or mage could potentially modify the process to ensure her survival while granting her the enhanced abilities that come with Witcher mutations.

[carl]

Originally posted by worm_master:

Havent read the books, or played the other games, so honest question.

WHY cant Ciri become a witcher, by undergoing mutation?

It's basically a secret that was lost and that's the gist of it. The plot of Witcher 1(The Game) was retrieving the stolen mutations that creates new witchers. (Also Witcher 1 was absolutely over-the-top badass nearing the end and you should absolutely play it)

[worm_master]

Originally posted by carl:

Originally posted by worm_master:

Havent read the books, or played the other games, so honest question.

WHY cant Ciri become a witcher, by undergoing mutation?

It's basically a secret that was lost and that's the gist of it. The plot of Witcher 1(The Game) was retrieving the stolen mutations that creates new witchers. (Also Witcher 1 was absolutely over-the-top badass nearing the end and you should absolutely play it)

Thanks.

[Tzyku]

Originally posted by worm_master:

Havent read the books, or played the other games, so honest question.

WHY cant Ciri become a witcher, by undergoing mutation?

Ciri can't become a Witcher by undergoing the mutations because she was never a candidate in the first place. The Trial of the Grasses, which is the process that creates Witchers, is extremely dangerous, and Geralt, Vesemir, and others never wanted that for her. The process is so unsafe that most candidates don’t survive, and even if they do, it permanently alters their bodies in ways that are not guaranteed to be safe, especially for someone like Ciri. But technically she could try

[Tzyku]

Originally posted by Growlanser:

Originally posted by DimV9224:

I only have one question for OP. How do you explain the cat eyes?

She clearly doesn’t normally have cat eyes in the trailer. She just took a potion and they changed. Mutated Witchers ALWAYS have the eyes. She doesn't.

Yes she has them, even in the begining

[worm_master]

now I'm confused, first I'm told it's a secret thats lost, then another person says "because it's too dangerous" Can understand that, which is it? A lost secret or too unsafe?

[carl]

Originally posted by Tzyku:

Originally posted by worm_master:

Havent read the books, or played the other games, so honest question.

WHY cant Ciri become a witcher, by undergoing mutation?

Ciri can't become a Witcher by undergoing the mutations because she was never a candidate in the first place. The Trial of the Grasses, which is the process that creates Witchers, is extremely dangerous, and Geralt, Vesemir, and others never wanted that for her. The process is so unsafe that most candidates don’t survive, and even if they do, it permanently alters their bodies in ways that are not guaranteed to be safe, especially for someone like Ciri. But technically she could try

I recall in Witcher 1 it was actually feasible for people to be turned into Witchers without the trial of the grasses. The plot there was great and I really think anyone who hadn't played it should play it first, but basically The Church Of The Eternal flame's current leader, who is of Elder blood, was taken care of by Geralt and his world view was shaped by Geralt's choices during the events of the game, he time-travelled and is the main-antagonist of Witcher 1, he was so inspired by Geralt he decided to bring back Witchers as obedient super soldiers, which Geralt fought. As I said, it was over the top to all hell but it was so iconic. so if that was possible then surely Ciri will find a way.

[Growlanser]

Originally posted by Tzyku:

Originally posted by Growlanser:

She clearly doesn’t normally have cat eyes in the trailer. She just took a potion and they changed. Mutated Witchers ALWAYS have the eyes. She doesn't.

Yes she has them, even in the begining

Then that requires an explanation. She shouldn't have taken the mutations. It wasn't necessary 😕

[Tzyku]

Originally posted by worm_master:

now I'm confused, first I'm told it's a secret thats lost, then another person says "because it's too dangerous" Can understand that, which is it? A lost secret or too unsafe?

Actually, it's a bit of both. When Ciri was younger, she could have undergone the mutations, and they had everything needed for it. However, Geralt and the other Witchers, particularly Vesemir, decided against it. They didn’t want her to go through the dangerous process, especially since it would have been incredibly risky, and there was a real chance she wouldn’t survive. This decision was made in the books.

By the time Ciri grew older, the situation had changed. The Witchers no longer performed the Trial of the Grasses in the same way they did before. In The Witcher 1, it's clear that Witchers stopped creating new ones due to the decline of their order and the increasing difficulty of the mutations. So, while technically possible earlier, the option was no longer available by the time Ciri grew up.

[worm_master]

Originally posted by Tzyku:

Originally posted by worm_master:

now I'm confused, first I'm told it's a secret thats lost, then another person says "because it's too dangerous" Can understand that, which is it? A lost secret or too unsafe?

ctually, it's a bit of both. When Ciri was younger, she could have undergone the mutations, and they had everything needed for it. However, Geralt and the other Witchers, particularly Vesemir, decided against it. They didn’t want her to go through the dangerous process, especially since it would have been incredibly risky, and there was a real chance she wouldn’t survive. This decision was made in the books.

By the time Ciri grew older, the situation had changed. The Witchers no longer performed the Trial of the Grasses in the same way they did before. In The Witcher 1, it's clear that Witchers stopped creating new ones due to the decline of their order and the increasing difficulty of the mutations. So, while technically possible earlier, the option was no longer available by the time Ciri grew up.

I see, thanks for clearing it up