The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

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Why do people care about the Bloody Baron?
He an evil man who beat his wife and cost her to have a miscarriage. He never deserved to be a husband/father. He also a murderer and we are not talking about killing when he was a soldier.

People seem to care about him because he a well develop character but people fail to see that the world is better off without him. I have no sympathy for the Bloody Baron or his wife. I wish the game would allow me as Geralt to kill him instead.

How dare you blackmail me you worthless degenerate scumbag.
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Viper 8 AGO 2015 a las 17:26 
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Well don't try to convince us that your way is the right way then. They are merely your way. Seriously though its just a game. Everybody has personnal issues in ther lifes.

Never said my way was the right way. Not really no, no one has personal issues like me, not even close, if you would call that personal issues anyway. Back on topic: It a game that trife with emotion. Most games can't do that so it make Witcher 3 special in that sense.

At first I was in awe of the Bloody Baron and due note while I never finish the game, this is my 2nd playthrough and now I just can't stand the Bloody Baron. I grew hatred for him over time. He not the worst villian, but he not a good man by any stretch of the imagination and doesn't deserve remorse and a 2nd chance.

And someone mention that he a good man cause he gave the little girl a home and Ciri a place to stay? Really? That makes you a good man, something that is mere common sense? Good man are the pellar and the common folks saving Anna while risking their lives. Baron didn't even risk his lives and then he talk smack about the commonfolks when Geralt mention them to him. Who the hell is Baron? He just a fat drinking SOB that is an abusive murderous piece of garbage.

Yea right nobody...Just the fact that you are actually sitting in front of a computer typing out a post on the Internet makes that a bunch of BS. Many people are not even able to do that and many have had terrible tragedies in there life that nobody could ever recover form. Stop feeling sorry for yourself.

This is not the place. Not going to reply to that sort of comment anymore.
Última edición por Viper; 8 AGO 2015 a las 17:29
valkyriebonfire 8 AGO 2015 a las 17:29 
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Never said my way was the right way. Not really no, no one has personal issues like me, not even close, if you would call that personal issues anyway. Back on topic: It a game that trife with emotion. Most games can't do that so it make Witcher 3 special in that sense.

At first I was in awe of the Bloody Baron and due note while I never finish the game, this is my 2nd playthrough and now I just can't stand the Bloody Baron. I grew hatred for him over time. He not the worst villian, but he not a good man by any stretch of the imagination and doesn't deserve remorse and a 2nd chance.

And someone mention that he a good man cause he gave the little girl a home and Ciri a place to stay? Really? That makes you a good man, something that is mere common sense? Good man are the pellar and the common folks saving Anna while risking their lives. Baron didn't even risk his lives and then he talk smack about the commonfolks when Geralt mention them to him. Who the hell is Baron? He just a fat drinking SOB that is an abusive murderous piece of garbage.

Yea right nobody...Jus t the fact hat you are actually sitting in front of a computer typing out a post on the Internet makes that a bunch of BS. Many people are not even able to do that and many have had terrible tragedies in there life that nobody could ever recover form. Stop feeling sorry for yourself.

This is not the place.

Tell that to the baron. He had plenty of chances to make his wife and daughter want to stay. We are talking over the courses of many years. Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7 but hundred of chances to make it right and he still fail to do so.

That is not a man, that is a bastard.
Viper 8 AGO 2015 a las 17:33 
Personally I don't think adultery is an terrible evil thing either. Marriage is a human invention ( society convention). Love is a human emotion ( real ). If you don't love somebody anymore then marriage means nothing any longer. Just my opinion however. Rather than act like one person has commited some terrible thing. Its time to split.
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valkyriebonfire 8 AGO 2015 a las 17:36 
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Except that she isn't.

It's rather sad when women get blamed for being abused. In this case the women is trapped in a marriage with a man who is a drunk, abusive and has a violent profession.

Because she has a child, because her husband will not only try to find her but is likely to torture and kill people who help her she can't leave.

If you honestly believe that a women who cheats on her man (in a loveless marriage or not) deserves to be beaten I feel sorry for you and hope you don't end up with somebody who will tolerate abuse.

What is interesting is that the Baron himself tells Geralt that she made him feel like a 'flaccid prick'. Beating her is not about love, it's about him feeling impotent and trying to get his manhood back.

She got bored taking care of a child all alone. She needed a man. She found love in the arms and bed of her childhood friend. She was still married and carrying on an adulterous affair for three long years. Deceit, lies, betrayal, all within sight of her young child. Nice worman, eh?

Then when she learns that her husband has murdered her lover, she tries to kill him. In some countries still, they'd stone a woman for adultery. And a man who wouldn't stand up and defend his own honor after being cuckolded by a woman for three years wouldn't be considered much of a man.

Putting all that aside, she did strike him first. She tried to kill him with a dagger or knife, can't recall but she tried it several times. So your solution would be, he wasn't much of a man to begin with, he drove her into the arms of another man and how dare he murder that man in the end -- he deserves to die. He should have just stood there and let her kill him because now she can't have the man she wanted to scratch her itch for her whenever she wanted?

He didn't start out as a wife-beater. It began as a means of controlling the situation because she was trying to kill him, then later on herself. He said that that went on for two years but they finally got over that hump and things started to look better for them both when she got pregnant.

He left her to take care of the child on her own. That a horrible father and husband. You know how hard it is to take care of your own child on your own and not knowing if the father is going to come back dead or alive? She had the right to cheat on him, he was never around and she felt lonely. Those country that stone a woman for adultery is _____________________ insert word. They should stone man for adultery. Man commit adultery all the time and I won't even go into which country does this and what not.

Yes he should have let her kill him. He a unworthy degenerate piece of garbage and deserve to die and should have be willing to let his wife kill him. He unworthy to even go on living. He worst than those sewer rats and should be treated like an animal.

He could have just left her and be a man and take the high road. If she didn't want him, let her go. He force her to stay with him even though she didn't want to. Where is her freedom and choice in all of this? Is she suppose to be his servant?
valkyriebonfire 8 AGO 2015 a las 17:42 
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Personally I don't think adultery is an terrible evil thing either. Marriage is a human invention ( society convention). Love is a human emotion ( real ). If you don't love somebody anymore then marriage means nothing any longer. Just my opinion however. Rather than act like one person has commited some terrible thing. Its time to split.

But the honorable and decent thing would be to end it and go off with someone else. It is deceitful to carry on in your own home (your husband's own home and bed, presumably) and pretend to still be the dutiful wife, caring for your child while getting your rocks off with someone for three long years.

Agree that it was time to split. But the lies, the pretense that goes along with a three-year long affair is hard to forgive and excuse. Even the baron said he could overlook a one-night stand, even a brief fling but three years without a word that anything was amiss, is hard to swallow and let go.

Baron is a soldier is he not? What makes you think he didn't cheat on her with countless ♥♥♥♥♥♥? Baron remind me of the dead king in Game of Thrones. Every soldiers ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Viper 8 AGO 2015 a las 17:43 


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Personally I don't think adultery is an terrible evil thing either. Marriage is a human invention ( society convention). Love is a human emotion ( real ). If you don't love somebody anymore then marriage means nothing any longer. Just my opinion however. Rather than act like one person has commited some terrible thing. Its time to split.

But the honorable and decent thing would be to end it and go off with someone else. It is deceitful to carry on in your own home (your husband's own home and bed, presumably) and pretend to still be the dutiful wife, caring for your child while getting your rocks off with someone for three long years.

Agree that it was time to split. But the lies, the pretense that goes along with a three-year long affair is hard to forgive and excuse. Even the baron said he could overlook a one-night stand, even a brief fling but three years without a word that anything was amiss, is hard to swallow and let go.

True..but it was not the adultery that was the major sin in that case..It was the lies and pretending that where.

And in this case She did not intend to stay wiht ther Baron . She intended to go off with her lover...if the Baron had not killed him.
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valkyriebonfire 8 AGO 2015 a las 17:45 
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He left her to take care of the child on her own. That a horrible father and husband. You know how hard it is to take care of your own child on your own and not knowing if the father is going to come back dead or alive? She had the right to cheat on him, he was never around and she felt lonely. Those country that stone a woman for adultery is _____________________ insert word. They should stone man for adultery. Man commit adultery all the time and I won't even go into which country does this and what not.

Yes he should have let her kill him. He a unworthy degenerate piece of garbage and deserve to die and should have be willing to let his wife kill him. He unworthy to even go on living. He worst than those sewer rats and should be treated like an animal.

He could have just left her and be a man and take the high road. If she didn't want him, let her go. He force her to stay with him even though she didn't want to. Where is her freedom and choice in all of this? Is she suppose to be his servant?

He was a soldier. What was he to do, desert? If he'd done that, he would have been hung, end of story. Yeah it must have been incredibly hard for her to take care of her child while frakking another guy. I'm sure she was totally thinking of Tamara's welfare while doing that for three years. She was lonely and horny and stuck with a kid to raise. She wanted sex and he was nowhere to be found. End of story.

He could desert if he wanted to yes. Like it really matter, in the end he betrayed Temeria regardless. Love conquer all even in war. Are you saying that men don't get horny? Last time i check they were constantly in and out of brothels.
Rafael Freeman 8 AGO 2015 a las 17:47 
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Except that she isn't.

It's rather sad when women get blamed for being abused. In this case the women is trapped in a marriage with a man who is a drunk, abusive and has a violent profession.

Because she has a child, because her husband will not only try to find her but is likely to torture and kill people who help her she can't leave.

If you honestly believe that a women who cheats on her man (in a loveless marriage or not) deserves to be beaten I feel sorry for you and hope you don't end up with somebody who will tolerate abuse.

What is interesting is that the Baron himself tells Geralt that she made him feel like a 'flaccid prick'. Beating her is not about love, it's about him feeling impotent and trying to get his manhood back.

She got bored taking care of a child all alone. She needed a man. She found love in the arms and bed of her childhood friend. She was still married and carrying on an adulterous affair for three long years. Deceit, lies, betrayal, all within sight of her young child. Nice worman, eh?

Then when she learns that her husband has murdered her lover, she tries to kill him. In some countries still, they'd stone a woman for adultery. And a man who wouldn't stand up and defend his own honor after being cuckolded by a woman for three years wouldn't be considered much of a man.

Putting all that aside, she did strike him first. She tried to kill him with a dagger or knife, can't recall but she tried it several times. So your solution would be, he wasn't much of a man to begin with, he drove her into the arms of another man and how dare he murder that man in the end -- he deserves to die. He should have just stood there and let her kill him because now she can't have the man she wanted to scratch her itch for her whenever she wanted?

He didn't start out as a wife-beater. It began as a means of controlling the situation because she was trying to kill him, then later on herself. He said that that went on for two years but they finally got over that hump and things started to look better for them both when she got pregnant.

And so it goes. That is the excuse of every man who is abusive. "I used to be a decent guy, then I was provoked".

What the game really got right is the daughter. When the Baron tells his story and gives Geralt the doll, it's easy to assume that father and daughter loved each other.

When you find the daughter, her story doesn't match his.

When I was a kid a 'nice' guy in the neighborhood used to beat his wife. Not often and people made excuses. The woman (with two kids, one was in my class) felt trapped, but finally found the courage to leave.

After a few months her sister and mother convinced her to give the marriage another try. The guy had given up the occasional bout of excessive drinking, had gotten his act together at work and was willing to go in couple's therapy.

He told a moving story about his childhood and how his mom was abusive and his mother was distant. How much he loved his children. And so it goes …

4 months later I came home from school and there was police and an ambulance. This time he had repeatedly punched his wife in the face with a broken glass. She lived, but lost an eye and a lot of mobility in her face. And of course she was disfigured.

20 year later I came across his kid, the one that was in my class. His word "My father was always an *******, but people liked to pretend he was a nice guy with a few problems."
Rafael Freeman 8 AGO 2015 a las 17:48 
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Baron is a soldier is he not? What makes you think he didn't cheat on her with countless ♥♥♥♥♥♥? Baron remind me of the dead king in Game of Thrones. Every soldiers ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

I'm sure he did. Just as I'm sure he didn't bring his floosies back to their common bed for three years straight and scr3w them with his wife in the other room. Flings are one thing, especially for soldiers far from home. He even said he'd been able to accept it if it had been a fling that Anna had had while he was away but what she did went far beyond that. She'd brought another man into their marriage for three years while he was off fighting battles, sending money home that they were happily spending.

And that excuses abuse and murder? Wow, maybe you should do some soul searching before one day you cause an 'accident'.
valkyriebonfire 8 AGO 2015 a las 17:49 
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Baron is a soldier is he not? What makes you think he didn't cheat on her with countless ♥♥♥♥♥♥? Baron remind me of the dead king in Game of Thrones. Every soldiers ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

I'm sure he did. Just as I'm sure he didn't bring his floosies back to their common bed for three years straight and scr3w them with his wife in the other room. Flings are one thing, especially for soldiers far from home. He even said he'd been able to accept it if it had been a fling that Anna had had while he was away but what she did went far beyond that. She'd brought another man into their marriage for three years while he was off fighting battles, sending money home that they were happily spending.

He went to war, what the hell did he expect? What do soldier expect when they leave their wife behind? If some guy leave his beautiful wife behind to go to war to fulfill one of his passion in life and what not, don't be surprise if she end up ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ someone like me. ♥♥♥♥ those guys leaving their wife behind. I have no sympathy for idiots. Those who take things for granted get no mercy from me. None whatsoever. I'm proud of what Anna did and now that I think about it, wish there was a way to let Anna live while Baron die.
GarnetFire17 8 AGO 2015 a las 17:51 
HE was nice to Ciri. It's just like in the books. Ciri has had it so rough that anyone who is nice to Ciri becomes instantly likeable while everyone who is mean to Ciri needs to be made to suffer. Me personally, I liked him and wanted to help him until he punched me in the face. After that he could go plough himself. That showed me he hadn't really changed one bit. The guy just is a raging bully with nasty temper. It's not about his drinking.
dnrob7 8 AGO 2015 a las 17:59 
Baron is a good man overall.
If he dissapears, there's no one to stop the barons troops turning on the civilians. Baron is the only thing stopping them.
valkyriebonfire 8 AGO 2015 a las 18:04 
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True..but it was not the adultery that was the major sin in that case..It was the lies and pretending that where.

And in this case She did not intend to stay wiht ther Baron . She intended to go off with her lover...if the Baron had not killed him.

But the time to have left him would have been BEFORE carrying on for three full years. If she no longer loved the baron, she should have left him. Then she would have realized that she wanted to be with a different sort of man and lo and behold! There's this guy she knew back when she was younger that would fit the bill perfectly. Only she didn't do that. She got bored, tired of being alone, carried on with a guy for years and then when it was discovered, decided to leave with him and be done with her marriage. Wow, seriously?

Look most marriages when they get in trouble, don't happen overnight. When one or the other or both start having affairs, it doesn't make it any more right just because they've stopped loving the other person. The honest thing to do is to come out and say that their feelings have changed.

But the deceit, the lies, the doing it behind someone's back and getting away with it just because you can, doesn't make it right. If the marriage was over, she should have left. Raising a child and having a longterm affair in front of the child made her a pretty lousy mother but I don't see anyone making an issue of that point here. Mother of the Year material? I think not. Neither of them were saints. Both were flawed as hell and deserved one another.

That not exactly fair since we never got Anna side of the story. We only got the daughter and baron side of the story. We still don't know Anna side of the story. It like your believing everything the Baron is saying.
yo 8 AGO 2015 a las 18:08 
This thread turned into this poor kid's free therapy session. I hope you realize that the world isn't so absolute lmao.
valkyriebonfire 8 AGO 2015 a las 18:13 
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He went to war, what the hell did he expect? What do soldier expect when they leave their wife behind? If some guy leave his beautiful wife behind to go to war to fulfill one of his passion in life and what not, don't be surprise if she end up ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ someone like me. ♥♥♥♥ those guys leaving their wife behind. I have no sympathy for idiots. Those who take things for granted get no mercy from me. None whatsoever. I'm proud of what Anna did and now that I think about it, wish there was a way to let Anna live while Baron die.

So every soldier out there should expect their loved ones at home to be boning someone else, is that what you're saying? Every single one of them are idiots, is that right? Wow, I cannot even imagine what you must have gone through but I feel deeply sorry for you because that is not the norm. It is not what happenes to every soldier.

Anna wanted to punish her unborn child because she hated the baron so much. And you're proud of this woman? They danced around the issue in the game but if abortion were on the table and openly discussed, the Crones were acting as a means of aborting her unborn child simply because she hated the baron. What had the child done to deserve such a death?

There's a reason why she lost her mind and the Crones are only partly to blame for that. She despised the child so much, she wished it dead. That irrational hatred, her own guilt for the entire situation and her desire to be rid of a child that she was giving life to, all led to her insanity,

Yet you're proud of her, I dare say, even admire her. Wow, just wow.

Yes, your hurting your family when you go to war. Your wife will never know if you will come back home dead or alive. That put a lot of stress on her. You leave to war and make your wife take care of the child or children? Isn't marriage a two way street why is she force to have to do all of your responsiblities as well as her? While she at home, who know where you been or who you ♥♥♥♥ or what your doing. She left in the dark and she has urges and she need it fulfill. That is human nature. Why should she even be loyal to you when she doesn't even see you for years?

You have no idea what I have gone through so my view is very much different from the rest of the world and in no shape or form am I consider normal by any standard. Back on topic: if Anna didn't want the child, the child is better off not living. You have no idea what it like to live when you weren't even meant to live in the first place only to have to carry guilt and suffering for no fault of your own.

No child should be force to live unwanted is all I'm saying. Dea was better off death then alive. At least Dea never had to suffer like Tamara.
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