Why didn't they give us RedKit 3, but ModKit ? o_O

[Myth[Alex]]

Or ModKit is just RedKit 3, but using a different name?

Well?

P.S: Witcher 2 uses RedKit 2, so I don't get it why the 3rd game doesn't have the same modding tools o_O (correct me if I'm wrong)

Thank you in advance.

[Unit]

Keep in mind that RedKit 2 for TW2 came out years after the game's release. It's only been a few months for TW3.

RedKit 3 is still coming, but they said long ago that it wouldn't be coming until after the expansion.

So just hold your horses, it's still coming, just gotta wait :)

[papalazarou]

well NMM works nicely and the modkit is available, lets see what happens. The redkit will prolly be out next year sometime

[Myth[Alex]]

WTF, guys? One of you (Unit) says something, while the other (Buzzard) something different....

Who is telling the truth?

Also, what would be the difference between ModKit and Redkit?

[Kevzombie]

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WTF, guys? One of you (Unit) says something, while the other (Buzzard) something different....

Who is telling the truth?

Also, what would be the difference between ModKit and Redkit?

Redkit allowed for much more advanced editing much like Falskaar and other world additions to Skyrim. They never technically said Redkit, and we assumed when they talked about modding it was that. Still very poor on them for not making it clear modding would not be as advanced as Witcher 2!

[Myth[Alex]]

BUMP

More answers ???

[pike]

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Publicado originalmente por MythAlex:

WTF, guys? One of you (Unit) says something, while the other (Buzzard) something different....

Who is telling the truth?

Also, what would be the difference between ModKit and Redkit?

Redkit allowed for much more advanced editing much like Falskaar and other world additions to Skyrim. They never technically said Redkit, and we assumed when they talked about modding it was that. Still very poor on them for not making it clear modding would not be as advanced as Witcher 2!

yes they said redkit would be released

from bluesnews
The Witcher 3 Mod Tool Backlash
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The release of mod tools on Friday for The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt raised questions from fans of the series who were hoping for a more feature-rich editing platform like the REDkit released for The Witcher 2. CD Projekt RED community lead Marcin Momot tweets a reply saying: "@MeerMusik This is the mod support for the Wild Hunt. At this moment we are not planning to release anything else." Polygon recaps some of the backlash from users, and points to the IGN interview from January where Marcin Iwinski promised the REDkit by name, saying: "It's a single-player experience all the way, but we are looking to release the REDkit sometime after the game launches for the modding community. This way, people can create their own adventures, and this will inevitably add a lot of fun and replayability to the game." Thanks Verno.

[WolfEisberg]

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Redkit allowed for much more advanced editing much like Falskaar and other world additions to Skyrim. They never technically said Redkit, and we assumed when they talked about modding it was that. Still very poor on them for not making it clear modding would not be as advanced as Witcher 2!

yes they said redkit would be released

from bluesnews
The Witcher 3 Mod Tool Backlash
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The release of mod tools on Friday for The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt raised questions from fans of the series who were hoping for a more feature-rich editing platform like the REDkit released for The Witcher 2. CD Projekt RED community lead Marcin Momot tweets a reply saying: "@MeerMusik This is the mod support for the Wild Hunt. At this moment we are not planning to release anything else." Polygon recaps some of the backlash from users, and points to the IGN interview from January where Marcin Iwinski promised the REDkit by name, saying: "It's a single-player experience all the way, but we are looking to release the REDkit sometime after the game launches for the modding community. This way, people can create their own adventures, and this will inevitably add a lot of fun and replayability to the game." Thanks Verno.

yeah, he talked about Redkit in January of 2014, almost 1.5 years before release of the game. Things change. That isn't be deceptive, that is plans having to change for various reasons.
http://ap.ign.com/the-witcher-3-pc/66759/news/the-witcher-3-new-details-to-blow-your-mind

[Gabi]

^ Yeah they totally whern't deceptive. Funny how everything they showed was different in the end. Gameplay, voice acting, graphics, mod support etc. All just so happened to have been completely changed. About the only thing that was true was it was an rpg and that Ciri has returned.

[Y Ddraig Ddu]

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That isn't be deceptive, that is plans having to change for various reasons.

So the initial ending to ME3 was a consequence of "plans having to change for various reasons" rather than laziness mixed with false advertising? C'mon man, you're being completely absurd.

They promised a REDkit for TW3, they now have completely rescinded that promise. Call a spade a spade. It doesn't mean TW3 is a bad game or that CDP-R are evil or anything.

[WolfEisberg]

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^ Yeah they totally whern't deceptive. Funny how everything they showed was different in the end. Gameplay, voice acting, graphics, mod support etc. All just so happened to have been completely changed. About the only thing that was true was it was an rpg and that Ciri has returned.

Gameplay and voice acting? At least for the English version they used the same voice actors as they did for Witcher 2. You are going to have to give examples of what you mean by Gameplay and voice acting. Graphics are exactly the same as what they showed for many months leading to the release.

[WolfEisberg]

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That isn't be deceptive, that is plans having to change for various reasons.

So the initial ending to ME3 was a consequence of "plans having to change for various reasons" rather than laziness mixed with false advertising? C'mon man, you're being completely absurd.

They promised a REDkit for TW3, they now have completely rescinded that promise. Call a spade a spade. It doesn't mean TW3 is a bad game or that CDP-R are evil or anything.

ME3 is irrelevant, and not even what I am talking about. And yes, anything said or showed during development of a game, especially 1.5 years prior to release are always subject to change, anyone who has watched game development over the years should already know this, and not take everything said as a promise, the absurd part is thinking that things can't change.

[Y Ddraig Ddu]

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And yes, anything said or showed during development of a game, especially 1.5 years prior to release are always subject to change, anyone who has watched game development over the years should already know this, and not take everything said as a promise, the absurd part is thinking that things can't change.

But see, it's more insidious than that. CDP-R claimed 1.5 years ago that they would be releasing the REDkit for TW3; never once did they rescind that remark before the release of the game. Only now, after people have paid for the game (many of whom may have bought it for the promise of being able to easily mod it with the REDkit) have they gone back on their original promise.

And that's why they should be held responsible.

[WolfEisberg]

People shouldn't buy a game based on a mod tool that is said to release at unknown time after the game releases, till the mod tools actually release.
Also them stating "We are looking into releasing...." carries an uncertainty that it would acutally release since they didn't state "We will", rather they said "We're looking". So they didn't even promise it would release.

[Myth[Alex]]

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Keep in mind that RedKit 2 for TW2 came out years after the game's release. It's only been a few months for TW3.

RedKit 3 is still coming, but they said long ago that it wouldn't be coming until after the expansion.

So just hold your horses, it's still coming, just gotta wait :)

REDkit 3 is not coming. They're officially said so. They gave tools to Nexus and are officially endorsing their modkit for TW3.

Source for them saying "NO" ???

[Y Ddraig Ddu]

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People shouldn't buy a game based on a mod tool that is said to release at unknown time after the game releases, till the mod tools actually release.

Irrelevant. The argument is, they made claims (whether "promised" or not, whether released in "an official capacity" or not) that they would be releasing proper mod tools. They now have gone back on that claim.

Massage it all you want, it's the truth.