How to use Puppet Axii sign?

[Atom.Little]

The Puppet Axii sign (last sign in second row, just beneath the normal Axii sign) makes the enemy you cast it upon temporarily become an ally who fights at your side (i.e. fights for you).

I have points in both Axii signs but don't know how to activate the Puppet Axii version. If someone can tell me how to do this - make the Puppet Axii sign work on an enemy (probably human, elf and dwarf) I'd be very grateful as I've been trying to get this to work for a long time without success.

Thanks in advance.
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P.S. Igni has two versions as well, but they're easy to navigate between. To cast a "fire blast" you just hit 'Q' briefly, and if you want the stronger "fire cone" you hold 'Q' until you don't want to cast more or until you run out of stamina/adrenaline. - But this method doesn't work with Axii, there must be something else you have to do (I've tried holding Shift while pressing 'Q', but it didn't have any effect so that wasn't it. Neither were holding left Ctrl.

[katzenkrimis]

It has something to do with having puppet and delusion equipped at the same time. Apparently, if you unequip delusion, the puppet will work.

I've heard of a couple other fixes, but have not tested them.

1. Setting your frame rate to 30 apparently works.

or try this:

2. Navigate to your folder: C:\Users<User Name>\Documents\The Witcher 3

Open the file "input.settings"

Find all the entries for "IK_Q=(Action=CastSignHold,State=Duration,IdleTime =0.2)"

Change the entry to have an IdleTime of 0.01. So after your change it should look like this:

"IK_Q=(Action=CastSignHold,State=Duration,IdleTime =0.01)"

There are multiple entries of this setting, so you will have to change them all.

This should let you use puppet and delusion at the same time.

[cassiels]

You have to hold Q but it takes some time. Keep pressing Q until you hear a very light click. Otherwise it will stun and the enemy just stands there. If done properly the enemy immediately attacks another. It works best with humans, bandits in particular.

[jss1138]

Holding down Q is the way to activate Axii's second mode.

Have you got the ability active in a slot? It's not enough just to upgrae it, you have to activate it as well. (One of the annoying new features of gameplay, I feel.)

[jepeman]

The problem is having both delusion and puppet equipped simultaneously. I cant use puppet with delusion equipped either, take off delusion and zero problems. Its a bug since release and what katzenkrimis posted might help, personally I just don't use puppet, its pretty overpowered anyway.

[Atom.Little]

Originally posted by katzenkrimis:

It has something to do with having puppet and delusion equipped at the same time. Apparently, if you unequip delusion, the puppet will work.

Originally posted by jepeman:

The problem is having both delusion and puppet equipped simultaneously. I cant use puppet with delusion equipped either, take off delusion and zero problems. Its a bug since release and what katzenkrimis posted might help, personally I just don't use puppet, its pretty overpowered anyway.

I got the same thought, so I tried doing this, but it made no difference. Maybe I should try it again, I may just have run into one of those times where it doesn't work right away.

Originally posted by katzenkrimis:

I've heard of a couple other fixes, but have not tested them.

1. Setting your frame rate to 30 apparently works.

Strange as it may sound - I've just bought a new computer with an Nvidia GTX 980 graphics card, and yet the FPS swings between 61 and all the way down to 30. 40 to 45 is not uncommon (but there are other things that makes me certain there's something very wrong with the graphics card; I'm going to call the company who sold it to me tomorrow).

Originally posted by katzenkrimis:

or try this:

2. Navigate to your folder: C:\Users<User Name>\Documents\The Witcher 3

Open the file "input.settings"

Find all the entries for "IK_Q=(Action=CastSignHold,State=Duration,IdleTime =0.2)"

Change the entry to have an IdleTime of 0.01. So after your change it should look like this:

"IK_Q=(Action=CastSignHold,State=Duration,IdleTime =0.01)"

There are multiple entries of this setting, so you will have to change them all.

This should let you use puppet and delusion at the same time.

Thank you for explaining the procedure, but I could easily end up making things worse, and I've already had so much trouble with all my gear during the last year so I'm not going to risk changing scripts and stuff like that.

Originally posted by cassiels:

You have to hold Q but it takes some time. Keep pressing Q until you hear a very light click. Otherwise it will stun and the enemy just stands there. If done properly the enemy immediately attacks another. It works best with humans, bandits in particular.

Originally posted by jss1138:

Holding down Q is the way to activate Axii's second mode.

Have you got the ability active in a slot? It's not enough just to upgrae it, you have to activate it as well. (One of the annoying new features of gameplay, I feel.)

Ah, I noticed this light cllick with another spell that I did the same thing with (forgot which, but it was also a spell with two modes). Thanks, I will definitely try it out.

Thanks for replying, guys, I think I'll figure this out now that I have regular descriptions of how to do it.

[Schneider]

Hello!
Just popping in to say that the modification of the settings file worked perfectly for me.
As a bonus here's a notepad++ regex find and replace for it:

Find: Action=CastSignHold(.*),IdleTime=0.2
Replace with: Action=CastSignHold$1,IdleTime=0.1

Don't be afraid to change settings files!
That's what they're there for, and you can always make a backup.

[Sutima]

Originally posted by Schneider:

Hello!
Just popping in to say that the modification of the settings file worked perfectly for me.
As a bonus here's a notepad++ regex find and replace for it:

Find: Action=CastSignHold(.*),IdleTime=0.2
Replace with: Action=CastSignHold$1,IdleTime=0.1

Don't be afraid to change settings files!
That's what they're there for, and you can always make a backup.

Noice thanks <3

[allenosborn1013]

I had the same issue I'm using an ancient Xbox controller for the PC version. I just had to let them get really close and hold RT. Sometimes it works, other times not so much. Thanks for all the info. I have Delusion, and Puppet on.

[xPowsin]

Originally posted by katzenkrimis:

It has something to do with having puppet and delusion equipped at the same time. Apparently, if you unequip delusion, the puppet will work.

I've heard of a couple other fixes, but have not tested them.

1. Setting your frame rate to 30 apparently works.

or try this:

2. Navigate to your folder: C:\Users<User Name>\Documents\The Witcher 3

Open the file "input.settings"

Find all the entries for "IK_Q=(Action=CastSignHold,State=Duration,IdleTime =0.2)"

Change the entry to have an IdleTime of 0.01. So after your change it should look like this:

"IK_Q=(Action=CastSignHold,State=Duration,IdleTime =0.01)"

There are multiple entries of this setting, so you will have to change them all.

This should let you use puppet and delusion at the same time.

Thanks for the solution.

This works wonderfully and makes the puppet sign alt mode actually consistently usable on any situation , near or far, any number of enemies, and with delusion equipped.

Just change the IK_Q values to 0.1 and restart the game.

Also works beautifully for other sign's alt modes. If anyone is afraid to mess up the file, make a copy of the file. It's hard to mess this up, even if you are not a programmer. There's just three lines.

[Lime]

So I've been having the same issue. Lowering the frames to 30 does work for me, but I'd rather not do that. I've been trying to find the file "input.settings" but it is nowhere to be found. I'm using Linux (Ubuntu 19.04) and Steamplay (newest version, whatever that is) so that complicates things a good bit.

I've tried using the find command with no results. I found a file called "input.xml" but that doesn't have "IK_Q=(Action=CastSignHold,State=Duration,IdleTime =0.2)" or anything similar within it.

Suggestions?

[ګćĦۼŕžعҖїᾐﻭ]

Originally posted by ApatheticAlpaca:

So I've been having the same issue. Lowering the frames to 30 does work for me, but I'd rather not do that. I've been trying to find the file "input.settings" but it is nowhere to be found. I'm using Linux (Ubuntu 19.04) and Steamplay (newest version, whatever that is) so that complicates things a good bit.

I've tried using the find command with no results. I found a file called "input.xml" but that doesn't have "IK_Q=(Action=CastSignHold,State=Duration,IdleTime =0.2)" or anything similar within it.

Suggestions?

the input.settings is in your savegame folder. In Windows its in your documents/the witcher 3 folder. In linux maybe somewhere similar
Edit: Maybe here: Linux (Proton): <Steam-folder>/steamapps/compatdata/292030/pfx

I can say for myself, this edit works fine. (changed all the values to IK_Q=(Action=CastSignHold,State=Duration,IdleTime=0.01)

[DeadLove...]

I wanted to do Enemy on enemy achievment second mod for AXII didn t work until I put my frame rate locket to 30 this apparently works

[Max]

Originally posted by katzenkrimis:

It has something to do with having puppet and delusion equipped at the same time. Apparently, if you unequip delusion, the puppet will work.

I've heard of a couple other fixes, but have not tested them.

1. Setting your frame rate to 30 apparently works.

or try this:

2. Navigate to your folder: C:\Users<User Name>\Documents\The Witcher 3

Open the file "input.settings"

Find all the entries for "IK_Q=(Action=CastSignHold,State=Duration,IdleTime =0.2)"

Change the entry to have an IdleTime of 0.01. So after your change it should look like this:

"IK_Q=(Action=CastSignHold,State=Duration,IdleTime =0.01)"

There are multiple entries of this setting, so you will have to change them all.

This should let you use puppet and delusion at the same time.

I removed delusion and now the puppet sign is working fine for me. I know they made Cyberpunk 2077 but it doesn't mean they shouldn't fix this bug.

[Yumeko]

> but it doesn't mean they shouldn't fix this bug
there are hundreds more.

[xPowsin]

Originally posted by Max:

Originally posted by katzenkrimis:

I know they made Cyberpunk 2077 but it doesn't mean they shouldn't fix this bug.

This game has a lot of bugs, mods at the official forum discourage suggesting fixes as "the game is x years old, whatever you want should be done through modding"