Can't beat Wraiths in Family Matters

[Gregorovitch]

Looks liike game over for me. I've tried this about 30 or 40 times now and I can beat the first group one attemp in four or so but I can't beat the sewond group, not even close.

Unless someone can explain how to save between the fights I can't go on really. It's just too boring to go through the whole cut scene thing over and over and it makes me too angry to concentrate properly.

[newman]

I had the same problem as you. Try loading an earlier save before you started that section of the quest, and fully prepare yourself. So get better healing items, better oil and better potions.

[HooksGURU]

Are you using Yrden and Wraith Oil? Also, move often to seperate the grouping.

[Exarch_Alpha]

You need up to date equipment and ideally extra points from places of power.

Or decrease difficulty. Bashing head when you are angry won´t work.

[Vellari]

Yrden is key, as that makes wraiths vulnerable (otherwise it's like hitting air). Also if you see a wraith "teleport" immediately roll (any direction) as it is very likely said wraith will appear right on top of you and hit you.

[Hekatonkheires]

This fight is absolutely nuts for the recommended level. Suggest doing other quests instead until you're level 10 - 15. Also, grab all the places of power ability points.

[Keeper of the Groove]

Originally posted by Hekatonkheires:

This fight is absolutely nuts for the recommended level. Suggest doing other quests instead until you're level 10 - 15. Also, grab all the places of power ability points.

thats totally not true, i did the quest when i was below the recommended level. I indeed had some issues too, but all you need to do is understand their tactics and use some oil and healing and stuff like that.

when a wraith dissapears then that means it will blink right next to you within half a second or so, immediately attacking and staggering you. this means you have to avoid attacks like these at all costs. just roll away when you see a wraith doing this (not too fast though or you'll be done rolling before it even blinks and thus it will still blink right next too you). quen also works for this but the wraith attacks twice here (maybe even three times dont know for sure), so this wont help that much.

after you've rolled and when the wraith is done attacking you can just keep bashing at it untill another wraith is about to attack.

when it comes to signs yrden works like others said, but also feel free to use quen (gives you a little bit more time to roll away if you didnt notice a wraith was gonna blink attack you).

also ofc wraith oil and healing is usefull.

after a few attempts i did manage to win both fights

[Gregorovitch]

Cooled down , tried again using different tactics, and won the fight quite easily actually.

The problem was trying to use Yrden I think. Firstly, if you stay in the trap circle you just get surrounded which is lethal. Secondly I found if I tried to roll out, refresh Quen and then try to put down a new Yrden the wriaths would get to me before I could complete the job most times and hurt me real bad.

This may be just me as I don't really play action RPGs much, more TB and RTwP games like DOS and PoE, so I'm probably just not quick enough. Probably should not be playing Death March, lol. Another reason maybe that I haven't upraded Yrden. Dunno.

However when I tried again I forgot about Yrden and kept it dead simple. Attack a wraith until Quen broke (or I noticed a teleport happening, as pointed out by Angry Apple), roll away immediately, refresh Quen, select a reasonably isolated wraith to attack next, rinse and repeat. This worked with no trouble at all to to speak of.

[Exarch_Alpha]

Good you learned something, through complaining things are hard in hardest difficulty is always a bit silly.