Thought on Sparing or Killing the Feline Witcher on Where the Cat and Wolf Play...

[FadelZoel]

i was surprised when a whole village got murdered by non-Monster and more surprised when another Stray Witcher nearby and even more surprised that the witcher did this.

so anyway, i was wondering anyone thought and choices about killing him or spare him, because we, as Geralt can definitely relate how he felt. I know murdering the WHOLE village is really worse thing witcher can do, but i'm not a hypocrite, ♥♥♥♥♥ i'd massacre the whole village just for fun if they pay me 12 crown for murdering god being for them.

give me reason of why you guys choose to kill or spare him

[aaronlg]

I spared him both times I played. It's a decision with negligible impact on the game, and where both outcomes are defensible, so I just went with what I felt in the moment. They tried to cheat him after his pay after he risked his life killing a Leshen, and then when he insisted, they lured him to a barn and tried to murder him. It makes sense Geralt would sympathize because of his common experience, and because he's seen people far worse than the Cat witcher.

If Geralt were in the Cat witcher's place, the game probably would have forced you to kill the villagers in the barn. After that, the Cat witcher clearly snapped and went too far. It makes sense someone who had that level of mounting frustration over similar incidents, and who is that desensitized to killing as part of his profession, could snap that way. When you meet him, you can see the villagers clearly ♥♥♥♥♥♥ him up pretty badly in return, and that he seems honest and remorseful about what happened.

[Shock_&_Awe]

I always kill the guy. Had Gerald been in that situation, at worst he will kill his attackers, but he wouldn’t take it out on the entire village after his attackers were dead. A Witcher without control is too dangerous and while the villagers who attacked the Witcher could be considered monster, so can a WItcher who massacres an entire village.

[Valden21]

It's a question of perspective. If the person who made out the contract with him was some nobleman or rich merchant? Yeah, 12 gold would be way too small a payment in that situation. But the contract-issuer WASN'T a nobleman or rich merchant; we're talking about a small village. What that witcher doesn't understand is that for a small village like that one, 12 gold was most likely the single greatest amount of money they could scrounge up. It was literally ALL the money they had. Yet he slaughters them because he thinks it's too small an amount. IMO, that means he's become a monster as well, so it's now Geralt's duty to take him down.

[Derivat949]

Originally posted by Valden21:

It's a question of perspective. If the person who made out the contract with him was some nobleman or rich merchant? Yeah, 12 gold would be way too small a payment in that situation. But the contract-issuer WASN'T a nobleman or rich merchant; we're talking about a small village. What that witcher doesn't understand is that for a small village like that one, 12 gold was most likely the single greatest amount of money they could scrounge up. It was literally ALL the money they had. Yet he slaughters them because he thinks it's too small an amount. IMO, that means he's become a monster as well, so it's now Geralt's duty to take him down.

He slaughers them because they try to kill him when he insists on being paid though? Not because it was too little money. Maybe they shouldn't hire people they know they can't pay for their services and try to cheat and kill them after a job well done.

[BoxerDanc]

Unique sword and crowns is more than enough to spare him.

Also lore, not sure if you read books, but it's also said in the game what happens to Geralt at the end.

SPOILER: Geralt also gets stabbed with a pitchfork.

[FadelZoel]

Originally posted by Valden21:

It's a question of perspective. If the person who made out the contract with him was some nobleman or rich merchant? Yeah, 12 gold would be way too small a payment in that situation. But the contract-issuer WASN'T a nobleman or rich merchant; we're talking about a small village. What that witcher doesn't understand is that for a small village like that one, 12 gold was most likely the single greatest amount of money they could scrounge up. It was literally ALL the money they had. Yet he slaughters them because he thinks it's too small an amount. IMO, that means he's become a monster as well, so it's now Geralt's duty to take him down.

you know that he pissed because they tried to stab him, right? he did said he was used to get cheated on payment and shrugs it off. But only 12 gold for a Leshen Head? and even tried to take advantage of him??

[FadelZoel]

Originally posted by Shock_&_Awe:

I always kill the guy. Had Gerald been in that situation, at worst he will kill his attackers, but he wouldn’t take it out on the entire village after his attackers were dead. A Witcher without control is too dangerous and while the villagers who attacked the Witcher could be considered monster, so can a WItcher who massacres an entire village.

i get what you mean but, blud had like 3 more Head that didn't get paid back in his base and if you read the note, it read something like the School of the Cat was destroyed and bunch of its people got slaughtered. He got bounty on his head and now he's on his own.

[kireta]

Guy is a feral dog that needs to be put down, before he "loses his cool" again. Jugding by his responses it's not the first time it happened either.

Originally posted by Valden21:

It's a question of perspective. If the person who made out the contract with him was some nobleman or rich merchant? Yeah, 12 gold would be way too small a payment in that situation. But the contract-issuer WASN'T a nobleman or rich merchant; we're talking about a small village. What that witcher doesn't understand is that for a small village like that one, 12 gold was most likely the single greatest amount of money they could scrounge up. It was literally ALL the money they had. Yet he slaughters them because he thinks it's too small an amount. IMO, that means he's become a monster as well, so it's now Geralt's duty to take him down.

No, they planned to cheat him from the start, plain and simple. Even Geralt commnets how village is pretty well off for place in Velen.
When Gaetan refused to back out, they made this harebrain plan to ambush and kill him instead of paying up. Those in barn got what was coming for them. What happened next, though, was just Cat being Cat.

Originally posted by BoxerDanc:

Also lore, not sure if you read books, but it's also said in the game what happens to Geralt at the end.

SPOILER: Geralt also gets stabbed with a pitchfork.

If you read books you'd also know that Cats are outcasts of witcher trade for good reasons, hated for their violent streaks, and willingness to murder for money.
In fact, Geralt promised to hunt down another Cat witcher, Brethen, if he ever hears of him murdering. Innitially, Geralt gave the guy benefit of doubt, because it COULD be another "Butcher of Blaviken" situation, turned out it most likely wasn't.

So yeah, I somehow don't see Geralt going for "No worry bro, happens to best of us" option, or showing any camradery with feral witcher.

[Valden21]

Originally posted by Derivat949:

He slaughers them because they try to kill him when he insists on being paid though? Not because it was too little money. Maybe they shouldn't hire people they know they can't pay for their services and try to cheat and kill them after a job well done.

Again, COULD the village pay the fee? Yes, Honorton's better off than the other villages in Velen, but that's by the standards of Velen. Those standards are super low. So even the amount that the village tried to pay him in the end was something that he should have seen coming. Are the villagers partly to blame? Maybe. Do their actions justify his? No, absolutely not. He made a choice, and it was a bad choice. Geral gets stiffed on contracts all the time, but at least in the game, we never see him do what Gaetan did.

[Derivat949]

Originally posted by Valden21:

Originally posted by Derivat949:

He slaughers them because they try to kill him when he insists on being paid though? Not because it was too little money. Maybe they shouldn't hire people they know they can't pay for their services and try to cheat and kill them after a job well done.

Again, COULD the village pay the fee? Yes, Honorton's better off than the other villages in Velen, but that's by the standards of Velen. Those standards are super low. So even the amount that the village tried to pay him in the end was something that he should have seen coming. Are the villagers partly to blame? Maybe. Do their actions justify his? No, absolutely not. He made a choice, and it was a bad choice. Geral gets stiffed on contracts all the time, but at least in the game, we never see him do what Gaetan did.

Dude once again, he doesn't kill them because the payment is too low or whatever, he kills them in partial self defense after they try to kill him. This chain of events is clearly presented in the game. Geralt might get scammed out his payment sometimes but he never gets almost assassinated. He's not justified in slaughtering the whole village but you're making it seem like he went "12 crowns? That's too little" *kills everyone* instead of taking into account that he got ambushed and almost killed himself.

[BoxerDanc]

Originally posted by kireta:

If you read books you'd also know that Cats are outcasts of witcher trade for good reasons, hated for their violent streaks, and willingness to murder for money.
In fact, Geralt promised to hunt down another Cat witcher, Brethen, if he ever hears of him murdering. Innitially, Geralt gave the guy benefit of doubt, because it COULD be another "Butcher of Blaviken" situation, turned out it most likely wasn't.

Just to clarify: in the books, Geralt confronts Brehen after the Iello massacre caused by Brehen (not right after but after some time) and still lets him go, your post just says "if he ever hears of him murdering", it should be "if he ever hears of him murdering AGAIN".

[Big Dick]

Originally posted by kireta:

Guy is a feral dog that needs to be put down, before he "loses his cool" again.

Pretty much this

[Valden21]

Originally posted by Derivat949:

Dude once again, he doesn't kill them because the payment is too low or whatever, he kills them in partial self defense after they try to kill him. This chain of events is clearly presented in the game. Geralt might get scammed out his payment sometimes but he never gets almost assassinated. He's not justified in slaughtering the whole village but you're making it seem like he went "12 crowns? That's too little" *kills everyone* instead of taking into account that he got ambushed and almost killed himself.

I understand that, but killing almost EVERYONE in the village? Killing the villagers who directly attacked him was certainly self-defense, but that was only two of them. He should have stopped after that. Did he stop there? No, he didn't. The first two deaths he caused were self-defense, but all the others were outright murder.

[Big Dick]

Originally posted by Valden21:

Originally posted by Derivat949:

Dude once again, he doesn't kill them because the payment is too low or whatever, he kills them in partial self defense after they try to kill him. This chain of events is clearly presented in the game. Geralt might get scammed out his payment sometimes but he never gets almost assassinated. He's not justified in slaughtering the whole village but you're making it seem like he went "12 crowns? That's too little" *kills everyone* instead of taking into account that he got ambushed and almost killed himself.

I understand that, but killing almost EVERYONE in the village? Killing the villagers who directly attacked him was certainly self-defense, but that was only two of them. He should have stopped after that. Did he stop there? No, he didn't. The first two deaths he caused were self-defense, but all the others were outright murder.

As far as I remember, It is also implied that he killed children too, including little girl's brother. He only spared her because she reminded him of his sister

[moerty]

i let him live, at that point i've already indirectly killed an entire village thanks to black beauty, and i kill anyone that looks at me cross eyed anyways regardless of affiliation.

i can definetly give a fellow witcher some professional courtesy and let a little massacare slide, especially when it's due to bills being paid with treachery instead of coin.