DX11 vs DX12

[GrundleGrump]

Other than access to Raytracing and DLSS FSR (both of which are pointless if the FPS is already tanked by default), can anyone explain to me the beneficial reasons to run in DX12 vs DX11? What does DX12 do that's better if you don't care about Raytracing and don't want to use DLSS/FSR?

I remember the same issue with Borderlands 3. DX12 didn't look any different but the framerate was halved.

[Captn Tunabeerd]

There is no Difference in look between DX11 and DX12 since its just a platform that telling the graphic cards how to perform pictures aka FPS workload, if i remember correctly then dx12 doesnt have fullscreen option only (borderless)

[GrundleGrump]

Originally posted by Captn Tunabeerd:

There is no Difference in look between DX11 and DX12 since its just a platform that telling the graphic cards how to perform pictures aka FPS workload, if i remember correctly then dx12 doesnt have fullscreen option only (borderless)

Does this mean when it works, DX12 should actually IMPROVE performance, except it's not working properly here?

[Джони Крокер]

Originally posted by Captn Tunabeerd:

There is no Difference in look between DX11 and DX12 since its just a platform that telling the graphic cards how to perform pictures aka FPS workload, if i remember correctly then dx12 doesnt have fullscreen option only (borderless)

Yes there's is. There's a weird blur all over the screen, like when your press "P" button in GTA 4, I couldn't turn it off

[Chama]

Originally posted by GrundleGrump:

I remember the same issue with Borderlands 3. DX12 didn't look any different but the framerate was halved.

It's not just Borderlands 3 with this issue, it's most games that has dx11 and dx12 options. Dx11 will always run smoother than dx12.. sadly. Could be because dx12 is still very new, could also be it's just trash

[popthemoff]

Originally posted by GrundleGrump:

Other than access to Raytracing and DLSS FSR (both of which are pointless if the FPS is already tanked by default), can anyone explain to me the beneficial reasons to run in DX12 vs DX11? What does DX12 do that's better if you don't care about Raytracing and don't want to use DLSS/FSR?

I remember the same issue with Borderlands 3. DX12 didn't look any different but the framerate was halved.

HI. sorry you are having problems with DX12 in this game. It wasnt until i read your post and did further testing that i realised how broken it was. So DX12 basically halves the frame rate for me at 1080p and DLSS has no benefit when on, i come on discussion to learn and give my feedback in the hope we can all benifit, so please in future when replying to peoples posts be constructive, just saying LOUD NOISE helps no one.

[Icy1007]

Originally posted by PASS THE DAMN BALL:

Originally posted by GrundleGrump:

I remember the same issue with Borderlands 3. DX12 didn't look any different but the framerate was halved.

It's not just Borderlands 3 with this issue, it's most games that has dx11 and dx12 options. Dx11 will always run smoother than dx12.. sadly. Could be because dx12 is still very new, could also be it's just trash

lol, no. DX12 will run better than DX11 in almost all cases.

[Eterniter]

Originally posted by Icy1007:

Originally posted by PASS THE DAMN BALL:

It's not just Borderlands 3 with this issue, it's most games that has dx11 and dx12 options. Dx11 will always run smoother than dx12.. sadly. Could be because dx12 is still very new, could also be it's just trash

lol, no. DX12 will run better than DX11 in almost all cases.

Not for games developed with DX 11 in mind and then shoehorning DX12 in for marketing reasons, in these cases DX11 is almost always the better choice.

Games built from the ground up with low level APIs like DX12 or Vulkan are a different story.

[lamacra]

The game even looks worse on DX12 at the moment. DX11 looks better but they removed the zoom out function for gerald in their wisdom in DX11 so its unplayable for me like that. So at the moment its DX12 with awfull graphics or nothing. Again Thank you so much for this forced update.

[󠀡󠀡 ⁧⁧Shishio]

Originally posted by PASS THE DAMN BALL:

Originally posted by GrundleGrump:

I remember the same issue with Borderlands 3. DX12 didn't look any different but the framerate was halved.

It's not just Borderlands 3 with this issue, it's most games that has dx11 and dx12 options. Dx11 will always run smoother than dx12.. sadly. Could be because dx12 is still very new, could also be it's just trash

DirectX 12 was released on 29th July 2015, its not new and most games I played on DX12 runs very smooth, the problem is that devs didnt optimize their games on DX12. But if DX11 is running better for someone and if he/she doesnt care about new features likes RT and DLSS then they should go with DX11.

[Arkanis]

just ran a test between dx11 and 12 and with dx 12 ultra+ 1440p no rt and dlss balanced i am 58 -72 fps and on dx11 same settings expect for dlss of course i am at 80 to 90 fps (capped it at 90) there is something wrong must be

RTX3070
i7 9700k

[cowabunga]

I had opted for DX12 and it looked horrible but on DX11 looks great

[lamacra]

Originally posted by cowabunga:

I had opted for DX12 and it looked horrible but on DX11 looks great

Same for me but i can´t play on DX11 because they removed the zoom function of the camera :( Gerald is waaaaay to close for me on DX11.

[Klubstompers]

Running just fine for me on DX12 with ray tracing enabled and FSR2, with everything on Ultra+.
For those having issues with ghosting and bad frames with Nvidia cards on DX12 there is a mod on nexus to turn dlss2.4 into dlss2.5.

[Chama]

Originally posted by Klubstompers:

Running just fine for me on DX12 with ray tracing enabled and FSR2, with everything on Ultra+.

ok but like what GPU do you have

[Octafuss]

Originally posted by lamacra:

Originally posted by cowabunga:

I had opted for DX12 and it looked horrible but on DX11 looks great

Same for me but i can´t play on DX11 because they removed the zoom function of the camera :( Gerald is waaaaay to close for me on DX11.

Bro you just need to change the options.. its a new feature that brings the camera in close to Geralt.