Ray tracing looks 5% better for 120% performance hit WITH DLSS

[Wybrem]

Absolute joke. Can't even reach 60fps on a 3080ti at 4k balanced dlss so really 1440p. The graphical difference is VERY little between rtx on and off, however even with off it is now a complete stutter fest.

Wish digital foundry and other channel stopped drinking the rtx cool-aid. it's trash. It looks barely better and sucks all fps away.

[Master_Skywalker]

We need some two more generations of graphic cards to have really good RTX.

[Wybrem]

Originally posted by Cris_Skywalker:

We need some two more generations of graphic cards to have really good RTX.

RTX can rot in hell, my rtx2080 was terrible in raytracing and my 3080ti is terrible as well. In Minecraft it was fun and games, in the rest it barely makes a difference. INB4, portal looks better, ye 20year old lighting tech vs rtx, try a modern engine, like this, BARELY a difference, but my fps tank from 120 to 45ish with rtx on and off.

[50ShadesOfPlay]

That sucks for you, bro.

[Houdini]

Originally posted by Wybrem:

Absolute joke. Can't even reach 60fps on a 3080ti at 4k balanced dlss so really 1440p. The graphical difference is VERY little between rtx on and off, however even with off it is now a complete stutter fest.

Wish digital foundry and other channel stopped drinking the rtx cool-aid. it's trash. It looks barely better and sucks all fps away.

i finally met a person with clear perception of reality

[Wybrem]

Originally posted by 50ShadesOfPlay:

That sucks for you, bro.

this affects everyone with modern systems, eg 1440p120 or 4k60 and 2-3or 4 series nvidia gpus. ray tracing sucks the life out of these gpus and even copious amounts of dlss wont fix it. Ray tracing is trash and can die.

[Wybrem]

Originally posted by silly:

Originally posted by Wybrem:

Absolute joke. Can't even reach 60fps on a 3080ti at 4k balanced dlss so really 1440p. The graphical difference is VERY little between rtx on and off, however even with off it is now a complete stutter fest.

Wish digital foundry and other channel stopped drinking the rtx cool-aid. it's trash. It looks barely better and sucks all fps away.

i finally met a person with clear perception of reality

I'm sure digital foundry will make a video, zooming in 800x to spot the difference with rtx on and off and preaching how it's absolutely worth it and everyone should just drop resolutions to 1999 standards or spend 20k on a gpu that produces 51 fps at native 4k. However, I'd like to steer away from rtx. It's gonna be at least 4 more gens before we get acceptable native rtx performance.

[Kelset]

RT is a joke, there's games that don't have RT but are made very well and look gorgeous and run hyperfast.
It's just another gimmick to sell overpriced underpowered GPUs uncapable of running native resolutions (which are always better looking than DLSS)

[Master_Skywalker]

I agree the difference is hard to notice and in some points I think the original looks better. The trees don't even sway as much anymore, which was a very cool detail.

[Wybrem]

Originally posted by Kelset:

RT is a joke, there's games that don't have RT but are made very well and look gorgeous and run hyperfast.
It's just another gimmick to sell overpriced underpowered GPUs uncapable of running native resolutions.

this in essence ye.. I'm starting to mald out over the obsession of digital foundry etc over ray tracing, I mean get glasses, it barely looks better and demands a HEAVY price in terms of gpu performance. Not worth it at all.

[Wybrem]

Originally posted by Cris_Skywalker:

I agree the difference is hard to notice and in some points I think the original looks better. The trees don't even sway as much anymore, which was a very cool detail.

I didn't notice that yet, ye i loved that the trees moved with the wind. I though about replaying this but the graphical overhaul is not good. It barely looks better, without rt and stutters like crazy.

[peon]

This is like watching people complain about how their 1000$ wine taste's like ♥♥♥♥.

Guess you have to be a connoisseur of something to appreciate the small differences.

For me, raytracing not only looks much more realistic. But the workflow will make gamedevs lives much easier.

[StingingVelvet]

Reflections are the most overhyped BS ever in my opinion, but global illumination is amazing. Looks stunning in this game.

Sadly it's just not feasible to use on a normal card. I think it's optimization though, I knew when DLSS started devs would use it as a crutch and now with fake framerate boosts they'll lean on that too. Today's RT effects don't look any better than Control's and run ten times worse. They're just not bothering.

[Paul]

Originally posted by randir14:

Ray tracing isn't trash if it's done right. Compare Dying Light 2 with RT global illumination off and on, it's a big difference.

it adds depth but on the other hand it looks too uniform and smoothed because raytracing resolution is lower than screen resolution, You can't make the required number of rays and light passes. Even if you let Blender render static image for 10 hours, there will still be lot of noise and artifacts. It can be scaled to infinity.

It's a technology that is difficult to use on current hardware, it's based on false marketing expectations. Last week it was Fortnite running on Unreal Engine 5. Now it's next gen Witcher 3. It has same poor performace (no matter when you use software or hardware raytracing), you can run it 20 FPS on rtx 3060 on a higher setting.

The Witcher 4 is going to be a scary thing considering they abandoned their own engine.

[ShadowSorcery]

Originally posted by Wybrem:

Originally posted by 50ShadesOfPlay:

That sucks for you, bro.

this affects everyone with modern systems, eg 1440p120 or 4k60 and 2-3or 4 series nvidia gpus. ray tracing sucks the life out of these gpus and even copious amounts of dlss wont fix it. Ray tracing is trash and can die.

what a troll u are

[Necropants]

Turns RTX off rolls back to 1.32 and goes back to enjoying the perfect stereoscopic geometric 3D all of you have been missing out on.