question: so Geralt throws the baby in the oven, so how...

[Trespasser07]

...did it survive the furnace?

[Thermal Lance]

Are you sure he put the actual baby in the oven? Pay attention to all that happens. Took me a few times to get it myself.

[Trespasser07]

Originally posted by Thermal Lance:

Are you sure he put the actual baby in the oven? Pay attention to all that happens. Took me a few times to get it myself.

of course he did. if he didnt where did he throw it? Cerys was clear "put the baby in the oven..." was Geralt supposed to guess whether to or not? he only had seconds to act.

[Orion Invictus]

Because the baby gets pulled out immediately from the other side. That oven has two openings, one on either side.

[Trespasser07]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Because the baby gets pulled out immediately from the other side. That oven has two openings, one on either side.

really? with a fire burning? some trick. and i guess Geralt welded the oven door shut cuz Uldaryk couldnt open it. That was like 3 seconds after Geralt baked the child.
loose ends in this mission.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Trespasser07:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Because the baby gets pulled out immediately from the other side. That oven has two openings, one on either side.

really? with a fire burning? some trick. and i guess Geralt welded the oven door shut cuz Uldaryk couldnt open it. That was like 3 seconds after Geralt baked the child.
loose ends in this mission.

Again, the baby was pulled out immediately, and it's wrapped in a blanket that, presumably, provides good insulation, since they're living on an archipelago known (among other things) for its cold temperatures.

Oven air is hot, but not so hot as to burn flesh in a fraction of a second (hence why you can cook in it and even stick your hand in it without immediately bursting into flames). The baby would've been uncomfortable, but unharmed.

As for "welding it shut", Geralt used Quen on the door. That's it.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Trespasser07:

i'll have to try that myself on my neighbors baby, cries a lot at night, annoying as hell.

If you want to be convicted of attempted infanticide, that's one way to do it. I wouldn't advise it, personally.

Originally posted by Trespasser07:

Question, since Geralt's oven was about 2 feet wide, do you throw the baby in or lay it down gently in the flame? and the guy on the other side must have his hands already in position inside the smoldering furnace, right? cool.

Yes, she already had her hands in the oven. You can see her sneak off into the room after handing Geralt the baby while everyone else (Geralt and the player included) is distracted.

[LordOfTheBread]

Please use spoiler headers.

[Thermal Lance]

Oh, I assumed it was some magic shenanigans. They just shoved it in the oven and did it "passthrough" style and picked it up on the other side. LMAO. SOMEHOW, that makes it a bit ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up. What an insane idea. XD

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by LordOfTheBread:

Please use spoiler headers.

Done on my side. Also added to the quotes from the other guy. I don't think it's necessary since the thread is quite explicitly discussing a story point, but I hate spoilers and don't want to spoil anyone else either.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Thermal Lance:

Oh, I assumed it was some magic shenanigans. They just shoved it in the oven and did it "passthrough" style and picked it up on the other side. LMAO. SOMEHOW, that makes it a bit ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up. What an insane idea. XD

It's not "somehow", the oven quite explicitly goes to the other side. You can see that yourself while you investigate. The real ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up part is that Geralt - or rather, you, the player - had NO IDEA what her plan was. He/You just shoved a baby in an oven on someone else's order, on pure faith that she had a plan that wouldn't kill the baby.

[Trespasser07]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Because the baby gets pulled out immediately from the other side. That oven has two openings, one on either side.

c'mon you really think that baby would've come out unburned ? to be able to do that, Hjort's hands should've been in position already inside the furnace waiting for the baby, and the way Geralt did it was he threw that child in the fire. And that oven was easily 2ft wide from front to back. Imo that mission needed a new trick, something more doable, more believable.

[Trespasser07]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by Trespasser07:

really? with a fire burning? some trick. and i guess Geralt welded the oven door shut cuz Uldaryk couldnt open it. That was like 3 seconds after Geralt baked the child.
loose ends in this mission.

Again, the baby was pulled out immediately, and it's wrapped in a blanket that, presumably, provides good insulation, since they're living on an archipelago known (among other things) for its cold temperatures.

Oven air is hot, but not so hot as to burn flesh in a fraction of a second (hence why you can cook in it and even stick your hand in it without immediately bursting into flames). The baby would've been uncomfortable, but unharmed.

As for "welding it shut", Geralt used Quen on the door. That's it.

Quen is not for opening or closing objects like doors, its a protective shield to guard against attacks. you dont use quen like a weld. Good grief. Pls dont force reasons. lets just admit that that mission was ill-conceived.

[Trespasser07]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by Thermal Lance:

Oh, I assumed it was some magic shenanigans. They just shoved it in the oven and did it "passthrough" style and picked it up on the other side. LMAO. SOMEHOW, that makes it a bit ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up. What an insane idea. XD

It's not "somehow", the oven quite explicitly goes to the other side. You can see that yourself while you investigate. The real ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up part is that Geralt - or rather, you, the player - had NO IDEA what her plan was. He/You just shoved a baby in an oven on someone else's order, on pure faith that she had a plan that wouldn't kill the baby.

LMAo, and the guy on the other side must've had his hands burned cuz they needed to be in position INSIDE the smoldering furnace to catch the baby'. That's so lame.

[Alexis Machine]

Tbh, I really fail to understand the whole fire damage related point... Are we serious? In an archipelago of isles full of druids and priestesses specializing in elemental magic? The kind of enchantment needed to protect the child for such a brief exposure is trivial and should be easily available even to apprentices and novices: place it on the blanket and it is done, one does not even need to explain (or to tell the truth about) why it is needed. We also know that Cerys is on good terms with the druids. No, the real issue here is the one correctly nailed by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by Thermal Lance:

Oh, I assumed it was some magic shenanigans. They just shoved it in the oven and did it "passthrough" style and picked it up on the other side. LMAO. SOMEHOW, that makes it a bit ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up. What an insane idea. XD

It's not "somehow", the oven quite explicitly goes to the other side. You can see that yourself while you investigate. The real ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up part is that Geralt - or rather, you, the player - had NO IDEA what her plan was. He/You just shoved a baby in an oven on someone else's order, on pure faith that she had a plan that wouldn't kill the baby.

Except that it's even worse than that

Geralt clearly explains that to deceive the Hymn, one must also deceive his/her own accomplice, as regret can't be simulated, at least not when dealing with a creature that feeds on it. Cerys tells him to have faith in her, but that's nonsensical: if Geralts believes her, it means that he realizes that they are deceiving the Hymn (he is the one who explained her how to do it in first place) and that the child is not going to die. And this foils the whole plan. No, for the deceit to work, Geralt must be willing to deliver the child to certain death, and that's quite disturbing.

[TommyEV]

Why is everybody using spoiler tags? People who don't want to discuss this thin in particular shouldn't be on the thread. The title is quite clear.