Why is Yrden and Axii so useless?

[F4TAN82]

Axii is stupid and useless as hell at the start, its only good when you level it up and use it on conversation, but still sucks since if there's 2 people, for some stupid reason Geralt will only use Axii on 1, so the other would start panicking and fight will still break out.

Yrden is literally useless against every enemy other than Spectre. The description is "a trap, blocks the monsters from getting closer, scaring them off" but lets be real, it never happened lmao. the only usefulness is when you fight Spectre that you cant attack, and if use Yrden, you can finally attack them, oh and its useful in that Battle for Kaer Morhen mission to close the Hunt's portal (which is weird since it took Keira long ass time in the cave to close it but apparently Geralt just need to use Yrden). but that's it

[Hexenkessel]

"Why is Yrden and Axii so useless"

Probably cuz you are not using it properly.

[TommyEV]

Never been a fan of Axii and that hasn't changed. However, even though I didn't like Yrden in the past, it's now the one i use the most.

[Hexenkessel]

Originally posted by TommyEV:

Never been a fan of Axii and that hasn't changed. However, even though I didn't like Yrden in the past, it's now the one i use the most.

A trick that you can use with Axii, everytime when just one human remains in the battle, bewitch this enemy with AXII before the last attack and then you´ll have a different finalization.

[ImHelping]

Welcome to the truth of why people cry Quen is overpowred. Because Quen is the one that actually works even when enemies start roiding out their resistance stats. Instead of the horror stories you read online of "welp 100% burn chance is actually zero burn chance and even wild dogs are ignoring yrden slow down now, cool. great"

[Diabolical Taco]

Originally posted by LordOfTheBread:

If you8 find them useless you're nopt playing on Death March.

This x100

[♢︎♢︎♢︎♢]

Originally posted by LordOfTheBread:

If you8 find them useless you're nopt playing on Death March.

pretty much

[Ancient Toaster]

Yrden is broken AF if you actually build for Sign Intensity and use the skills. It's one of the best damage Signs now.

[GBrL]

Originally posted by Sentient_Toaster:

An upgraded Yrden can slow enemies down, shoot projectiles out of the air or zap enemies from a decent distance (if alternate mode), and do damage that scales with the enemy's maximum HP (supercharged glyphs). Some enemies simply can't be set on fire regardless of how much you pump Igni, so having a another source of scaling damage is nice if you're running a signs build.

Wait, is that what Supercharged Glyphs does now? I finished the Nightmare Olgierd fight with it and all Nightmares active. Was easy too.

[Ancient Toaster]

Supercharged Glyphs do 30 damage per second to enemies in the circle. It scales with Intensity and enemy level so it's a decent passive damage bonus in addition to making enemies slow to a crawl. Magic Trap shoots a lightning bolt that staggers enemies when hit, does (for me) about 380 damage per shock and it shoots projectiles out of the air.

Yrden Magic trap combined with Super Charged Glyphs and Igni has basically made most of the toughest fights trivial using a dedicated Sign intensity build. It's very fun.

[TommyEV]

Originally posted by AncientToaster:

Supercharged Glyphs do 30 damage per second to enemies in the circle. It scales with Intensity and enemy level so it's a decent passive damage bonus in addition to making enemies slow to a crawl. Magic Trap shoots a lightning bolt that staggers enemies when hit, does (for me) about 380 damage per shock and it shoots projectiles out of the air.

Yrden Magic trap combined with Super Charged Glyphs and Igni has basically made most of the toughest fights trivial using a dedicated Sign intensity build. It's very fun.

How do you combine them? First Yrden to control the enemies and then set up the trap? or the trap first, since it's slower to set up, and then the normal yrden?

I've been experimenting more with this sign in this playthrough but I'm still out of my element. The trap is sometimes incredible and sometimes it's extremely underwhelming.

[Vedren]

Necro? Yrden now slows all enemies within it's circle (least thats what the tutorials say now) and isn't a wraith specific power anymore.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Vedren:

Necro? Yrden now slows all enemies within it's circle (least thats what the tutorials say now) and isn't a wraith specific power anymore.

Was it ever? I remember it slowing all enemies within its radius way back when.

[GoreTiger]

Originally posted by F4TAN82:

Axii is stupid and useless as hell at the start, its only good when you level it up and use it on conversation, but still sucks since if there's 2 people, for some stupid reason Geralt will only use Axii on 1, so the other would start panicking and fight will still break out.

Yrden is literally useless against every enemy other than Spectre. The description is "a trap, blocks the monsters from getting closer, scaring them off" but lets be real, it never happened lmao. the only usefulness is when you fight Spectre that you cant attack, and if use Yrden, you can finally attack them, oh and its useful in that Battle for Kaer Morhen mission to close the Hunt's portal (which is weird since it took Keira long ass time in the cave to close it but apparently Geralt just need to use Yrden). but that's it

Both signs can be pretty useful on deathmarch. Yrden is great for slowing down wraiths that can kill you in 2-3 hits, also useful against quick moving katakans that can kill you in 1.

Axii is useful for stunning stronger enemies in a pack. The heavy/shield wielding bandits, The nekker warriors, The endromega warriors. stun them for about 5-10 seconds, kill their support then go at them.

There's prob a ton of other uses for them that I didn't list. Most of the game on any other difficulty you can cheese through with quen, but on deathmarch quen won't always get you out of every situation.

[un_synapse]

Originally posted by LordOfTheBread:

If you8 find them useless you're nopt playing on Death March.

Played on death march. Use Quen 99% of the time. Never used the two in the topic.

[acbatchelor]

A lot of people still don’t realize that yrden can paralyze some of the monsters like centipedes and spiders.